How to get to level 5? Spoilers

[TBdog]

I've done all I can and I'm 870 xp short. I now need to go to the mountain pass. I can't kill the hag as she's level 5. I've destroyed the goblin camp. I've search everywhere. I've stated the underground area but was facing hard enimies.

[JimmysTheBestCop]

Originally posted by Revan619:

Usual run is get the first 3 companions. Proc level 2. Hit the ruins then grove to proc level 3. Go do the village, spiders and then the knolls to hit level 4. Finish the side bits with ravenguard and the fake Paladins. Kill the hag. Then go to the goblin camp which usually procs level 5 before you fight the bosses or head into the underdark / forge.

good lord how many runs have you done? im not sure if I could ever do more then 1 play through. I find it to be a good game but to me its not like WOW AMAZING level.

Its really good and really polished. But I dont think it brings anything new to the table in terms of cRPGS or TBT (turn base tactical).

Now since BG2 has originally released I probably did a handful of playthroughs. But that game was a generational game.

Besides Bg3 being high grade production value and being really polished I dont see much difference then other genre games.

Larian has over 500 employees and Owlcat 100+ and lower at the time of Pathfinder Wraith of the Righteous. The only thing Bg3 does better again is the polish cause larian has the $$$. So they can do motion capture, more modern graphic, top soundtrack team and full voice acting, But in game play terms it doesnt do anything different and does a lot worst.

bg3 has god awful character sheets, inventory, HUD and information. They try to obscure so much of the DnD rule set that a lot their descriptions make no sense. Everything shows dice except TO Hit shows some bogus Xcom %. A lot of the items you can equip dont provide enough DnD info. You got to hit a button then hover/click over each highlight word. It is like they are afraid to show DnD to the masses but then they have full Dice rolls for skill checks. Like WTF they are so inconsistent.

[Mork]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Originally posted by Mork:

Yes with some barrels...

Its relatively easy to sneak behind her and drop 3 barrels. After that, the strategy would depend on your group but on Tactician, a hasted fighter archer can easily finish her off before she can do anything.

I am completely un-versed in barrel-mancy! ;)

I try to avoid using them... but against the spider, i think its a fair strategy.

[smellibear]

Like other people I fail to understand how that levelling is possible. I like to hit 4 before I even do much combat. Running around gathering secret caches and exploring places gives you a lot. Doing that alone should get you to three, and then you start sniping goblins until you're ready for big boy combat. Then remember that after you get xp for dialogue checks you can still kill things for combat xp. Aside from that the only thing is going down a checklist of what you've done and comparing it to possible quests.

[old.school]

I know that people hate hearing "just google it" but if you're on here asking people for help then maybe you'd be ok with looking at an interactive map of the Act 1 area? do a google search for bg3 ign map and you can look at an interactive map with filters to see what encounters you missed.

I was in the same situation a few days ago but i was short i think just 100xp from level 5 or 6. I looked up that ign interactive map and did a few encounters that i missed and was able to get the xp i needed.

[BeautifulFlowerField]

Hag should be easy and there are some fights leading up to her that will probably take you to 5. Discovering areas also nets a lot of HP so just visiting Zhent hideout, underdark, arcane tower, booal hidden cave, etc.

Shadow druids, woads/mephits, redcaps/ethel phase 1, pre-ethel mask slaves, gnolls, paladins of tyr, waukeens rest events, clear blighted village, animal statue trap cave in druid grove, all druid grove XP sidequests, full clear goblin camp and goblin camp outskirts, chapel, owlbear cave, toll basement, discover selunite temple and outpost/underdark, whispering depths/spiders - you can do all of this easily at level 4 and you can beat ethel just fine at level 4 too, do you have scrolls? spells are so so so so so so strong just use scrolls and honestly it doesn't matter if you're underleveled or not on any encounters, the game throws OP scrolls at you nonstop.

[negligentWarren]

Originally posted by Glyph:

Don't be scared of the hag you can take her out at 4. You do all the other act 1 stuff? Spiders under the village? Gnolls? Early underdark stuff?

i went there lvl 4 and got rekt i dont see how this can be done at lvl 4

[BeautifulFlowerField]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Originally posted by Revan619:

Usual run is get the first 3 companions. Proc level 2. Hit the ruins then grove to proc level 3. Go do the village, spiders and then the knolls to hit level 4. Finish the side bits with ravenguard and the fake Paladins. Kill the hag. Then go to the goblin camp which usually procs level 5 before you fight the bosses or head into the underdark / forge.

Is it even possible to do the big spider at level 3? I couldn't even at level 4...

yeah it's a positioning tactic check. put web boots on one character and initiate combat close to her, she chases them across the web bridges and you pelt her with ranged attacks and then burn the web for big fall damage. i put them on astarion so he could initiate with sneak attack and then throw alchemists flasks at the egg sacs as he baited her onto the bridge, burned for fall and then the rest of my party climbed down to just throw as much damage as possible at everything. Aoe is really strong, if enemies can't move out of cloud of daggers or moonbeam it will melt every encounter throughout the entire game.

[EvilDonut]

I usually hit level 5 during the goblin's camp slaughter

[Lampros]

Originally posted by old.school:

I know that people hate hearing "just google it" but if you're on here asking people for help then maybe you'd be ok with looking at an interactive map of the Act 1 area? do a google search for bg3 ign map and you can look at an interactive map with filters to see what encounters you missed.

I was in the same situation a few days ago but i was short i think just 100xp from level 5 or 6. I looked up that ign interactive map and did a few encounters that i missed and was able to get the xp i needed.

That map is so cluttered that it's pretty difficult to read frankly.

[SnowVix]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Originally posted by Revan619:

Usual run is get the first 3 companions. Proc level 2. Hit the ruins then grove to proc level 3. Go do the village, spiders and then the knolls to hit level 4. Finish the side bits with ravenguard and the fake Paladins. Kill the hag. Then go to the goblin camp which usually procs level 5 before you fight the bosses or head into the underdark / forge.

Is it even possible to do the big spider at level 3? I couldn't even at level 4...

I just constantly took out whatever web she phased to, the fall damage racked up fast just with that

fun fact, Shadowheart can't miss the webs with firebolt since they're objects.

[JimmysTheBestCop]

Combat is pretty easy if you played cRPGs and TBT before. And every boss fight Ive had so far there is always some cheesy puzzle like solving thing to it. You even get achievements for it. So it was purposefully created that way.

And not giving bosses magic missile immunity is kinda dumb as well.

[BeautifulFlowerField]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Originally posted by id795078477:

It's important HOW you did the Zents quest. XP-wise, it's probably the best to refuse to deliver the cargo and deal with the Zents in their hideout. Toll House is a group of assassins sent after Karlah. I think you'll pick up 250-300 XP from them easily.

You can also do early underdark, I think. If you cleared Zent hideout then they have a way to Underdark where you'll get a drop on those Minotaurs - you'll be shooting fish in the barrel. And then you can do the Myconid's first task and likely finding the mushroom picker.

You mean take out the entire Zhentrim hideout? That's a lot of enemies.

Also, won't that hurt you later with quests?

no, the zhent stuff doesn't really pay off in act 3 in a meaningful way, but I didn't kill them all it's certainly not necessary. there are two good items to steal, the merchant, and a secret passage to the underdark.

also one more tip for the spiders - just drink poison resist elixirs.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by JimmysTheBestCop:

Combat is pretty easy if you played cRPGs and TBT before. And every boss fight Ive had so far there is always some cheesy puzzle like solving thing to it. You even get achievements for it. So it was purposefully created that way.

And not giving bosses magic missile immunity is kinda dumb as well.

I wouldn't say it's "easy," but for me combat difficulties pale beside the navigation difficulties. Jesus, I spend the majority of game time getting lost than doing anything else...

[JimmysTheBestCop]

Originally posted by BeautifulFlowerField:

Originally posted by Lampros:

You mean take out the entire Zhentrim hideout? That's a lot of enemies.

Also, won't that hurt you later with quests?

no, the zhent stuff doesn't really pay off in act 3 in a meaningful way, but I didn't kill them all it's certainly not necessary. there are two good items to steal, the merchant, and a secret passage to the underdark.

also one more tip for the spiders - just drink poison resist elixirs.

You can hire 3 hirelings at camp. And if you go cleric 3 they basically get all there best buffs that dont have concentration. cleric bond and poison protection. then later u can give 1 level of druid to make like 80 good berries every long rest.

as long as buffs arent concentration you can leave them in camp. Poison protection is 2nd level spell.

[Zyenu]

2 things to make that a little easier for you, use the magic missile spell to knock her clones away (since it ks a guaranteed hit) let the cage burn for a few turns amd only then throw water on it to put it out. If you put it out right away the hag will use Mayrina against you