Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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woops Jun 13, 2024 @ 11:08pm
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How do we stop patch 7?
It is quite clear that Larian has made a huge mistake by including an option to be evil in the first place. But with patch 7 they are trying to deepen their mistake by adding even more evil options. I've never seen anyone ask for this, sure we all noticed that the evil endings are lacking but nobody asked "hey Larian, let me please be more evil" (!?)
This has the potential to teach young people everywhere that violence and being evil is okay. It's actually not! okay. I hope that (even if Steam allows this patch to land with some sort of warning or disclaimer) that the players who make the huge mistake of fantasizing about being evil in BG3 can very well be put on a Steam list of some sort and in the future the police can look up their ingame crimes just as they look up people's real life crimes. You've been warned. I can certainly only tell you that my personal opinion is that anyone who wants to be evil has a serious, conscience problem. The biggest danger are probably players who play an evil character on their first playthrough. This is legitimately a red flag I believe
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Heu, Iterum Id Feci Jun 13, 2024 @ 11:11pm 
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Yeah, we should put them in work camps for their crimes against the pixels, polygons and vertices!
#pixellifematters
Last edited by Heu, Iterum Id Feci; Jun 13, 2024 @ 11:12pm
Razamanaz Jun 13, 2024 @ 11:27pm 
Man, now I wish I'd never played GTAV. I'm getting life for sure.
Draknalor Jun 14, 2024 @ 1:15am 
Uhmm.

The game is mature 17+ rating.

Don’t let ”Young people” play it.
Vox Maximus Jun 14, 2024 @ 2:05am 
Originally posted by Draknalor:
Uhmm.

The game is mature 17+ rating.

Don’t let ”Young people” play it.

Funny how "mature" still doesn't allow you to buy beers.
Orion Invictus Jun 14, 2024 @ 2:19am 
Originally posted by Vox Maximus:
Originally posted by Draknalor:
Uhmm.

The game is mature 17+ rating.

Don’t let ”Young people” play it.

Funny how "mature" still doesn't allow you to buy beers.
It does in countries where this stuff is at least somewhat consistent.
Ragatokk Jun 14, 2024 @ 2:22am 
Being evil is the best, and better people get an outlet for their evil urges than to do it for real right?
Morion Jun 14, 2024 @ 2:25am 
You can buy game on GoG, download it and never update. I have old Skyrim installer that way, for modding purposes.
woops Jun 14, 2024 @ 2:25am 
Originally posted by Ragatokk:
Being evil is the best, and better people get an outlet for their evil urges than to do it for real right?
no, it's not right at all. The more you do something, the more you want to do it. This means evil players will also act evil in real life.
Jarsonne Jun 14, 2024 @ 2:50am 
I don't think it's about more evil options, it's that (some?) evil ends had like 3s postlude and wasn't detailing anything.

But I agree with OP, I tried a replay with more evil approach and failed finish it, probably a lot because of this evil approach.

i won't say it's not useful, evils paths make talk more, and tend mark more, they tend be loved by some players, and even for good path it's important it's there not illusions of choices.

But really that's a lot of work for meh. I'm playing Mass Effect, and have a blast currently with ME2, the series choose an opposition diplomat/welcoming/compassionate versus pragmatic/rude/making difficult choices/a bit selfish I suppose.

The writing didn't follow it 100% and tend also stick first to more good when diplomat smiling people can be infect manipulators, and second more to evil even if it makes sense. But i was thinking that it was a good idea to make evil paths more tolerable for most players, and all in all still better than grey alternative not only hard to do properly but annoying when overused.
Manimal Jun 14, 2024 @ 2:54am 
stop being so soft.
Fluffykeith Jun 14, 2024 @ 2:54am 
Originally posted by ftw01:
Originally posted by Ragatokk:
Being evil is the best, and better people get an outlet for their evil urges than to do it for real right?
no, it's not right at all. The more you do something, the more you want to do it. This means evil players will also act evil in real life.

Really?
Let’s go over this…
I’ve been playing violent video games since the mid 80s.
I’ve been watching violent movies and horror movies since about the same time.
I read horror literature.
I listen to Death and Black Metal.

According to you, I should be a violent, monstrous psychopath who slaughters innocents in ritual sacrifices to the Prince of Darkness.

And in reality? I’m a total softie with a Westie pupper who doesn’t even like holding a firearm..
Jarsonne Jun 14, 2024 @ 3:05am 
Originally posted by Fluffykeith:
Originally posted by ftw01:
no, it's not right at all. The more you do something, the more you want to do it. This means evil players will also act evil in real life.

Really?
Let’s go over this…
I’ve been playing violent video games since the mid 80s.
I’ve been watching violent movies and horror movies since about the same time.
I read horror literature.
I listen to Death and Black Metal.

According to you, I should be a violent, monstrous psychopath who slaughters innocents in ritual sacrifices to the Prince of Darkness.

And in reality? I’m a total softie with a Westie pupper who doesn’t even like holding a firearm..
I won't say I agree with OP comment on that, it's complicate.

But all your answer is fake:
You was a goodie goodie in the many games you killed ton of, nazi/zombies/evil aliens/mafia/evil humans/more.

The main character wasn't an horror in most horror literature you read.

Even the few rare cases like hero is a serial killer are deeply fake as the serial killer still try be a goodie goodie and achieve it, to only kill very evil people.

Nobody care of kiddish satan ideas of Death and Black Metal, or some psycho, it's just music with game around the image.

You have watch many violent movies but in mostly all hero was quite a goodie goode or trying be it. Pick Breaking Bad as a typical example, sure in a way the main character evolves gradually to pure evil, but it's not that brutal and conscious.

So no your answer is pure fake.

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And then let be clear, it evolved, hero was goodie goodie, but they started feel predictive, annoying, so heroes evolved to have dark sides and be more complex and less predictive. But it's still far to evil paths you can see in a game as BG3.

And for me that would be a better track for having alternate a bit opposed tracks, but as far I know/remember, no game tried.
Last edited by Jarsonne; Jun 14, 2024 @ 3:10am
Fluffykeith Jun 14, 2024 @ 3:08am 
Originally posted by Jarsonne:
Originally posted by Fluffykeith:

Really?
Let’s go over this…
I’ve been playing violent video games since the mid 80s.
I’ve been watching violent movies and horror movies since about the same time.
I read horror literature.
I listen to Death and Black Metal.

According to you, I should be a violent, monstrous psychopath who slaughters innocents in ritual sacrifices to the Prince of Darkness.

And in reality? I’m a total softie with a Westie pupper who doesn’t even like holding a firearm..
I won't say I agree with OP comment on that, it's complicate.

But all your answer is fake:
You was a goodie goodie in the many games you killed ton of, nazi/zombies/evil aliens/mafia/evil humans/more.

The main character wasn't an horror in most horror literature you read.

Even the few rare cases like hero is a serial killer are deeply fake as the serial killer still try be a goodie goodie and achieve it, to only kill very evil people.

Nobody care of kiddhs satan ideas of Death and Black Metal or some psycho, it's just music with game around the image.

You watch many vilent movies but in mostly all hero was quite a goodie goode or trying be it. Pick Breaking Bad as a typical example, sure in a way the main character evolves gradually to pure evil, but it's not that brutal and conscious.

So no your answer is pure fake.

So you somehow watched me play all those games and you know all the movies and books I’ve read? Are you stalking me? Or are you making up stuff that you couldn’t possibly know?

Cute straw man.
Jarsonne Jun 14, 2024 @ 3:12am 
Originally posted by Fluffykeith:
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So you somehow watched me play all those games and you know all the movies and books I’ve read? Are you stalking me? Or are you making up stuff that you couldn’t possibly know?

Cute straw man.
Lol, young? Apart if you choose stinky games like I remind one was with Nazi side without any ambiguity, I know very well all games you could have played was following ethic standards of their time.

But ok if not where's the list? But you'll have none without look like very weird.
Fluffykeith Jun 14, 2024 @ 3:21am 
Originally posted by Jarsonne:
Originally posted by Fluffykeith:
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So you somehow watched me play all those games and you know all the movies and books I’ve read? Are you stalking me? Or are you making up stuff that you couldn’t possibly know?

Cute straw man.
Lol, young? Apart if you choose stinky games like I remind one was with Nazi side without any ambiguity, I know very well all games you could have played was following ethic standards of their time.

But ok if not where's the list? But you'll have none without look like very weird.

It’s funny you think I need to justify myself to liar like yourself.

But here’s an example.
I used to mod for Carmageddon that turned the people back to people after they got changed to zombies on release. The mod was issued on cds with games magazines at the time.
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