Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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Nechlord Feb 20, 2024 @ 7:46am
Why is Shadowheart so disturbed by the Dark Urge?
I would have thought considering Shar's hatred of life that Bhaal and Shar would get on reasonably well, considering one hates life and loves grief wheras the other wants to end life and indirectly cause grief.

Is this just Shadowheart not fully reflecting the wishes of her goddess?
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Metadigital Feb 20, 2024 @ 8:11am 
Shar isn't exactly honest about her intentions and her followers aren't exactly well informed about what it is they are following.
GriffinPilgrim Feb 20, 2024 @ 8:14am 
Shadowheart has not really understood her goddess' true nature.
As for the two deities they don't get on. Bhaal wants everything to die and then to linger in the death. Shaar wants the universe to stop existing at all.
anachoret Feb 20, 2024 @ 8:17am 
Gods with similar or overlapping portfolios (and especially often evil ones) don't get along because they view the others as usurping their authority or as thieves or as "doing it wrong".
EricHVela Feb 20, 2024 @ 8:17am 
Shar doesn't hate life. She just love loss but not in the mortality sense. She loves loss that lingers. Death ends too quickly.

Bhaal is all about killing everything. He doesn't care how or why. He just wants everyone killed.

The two are at odds.

Also... SH is her own person with limited knowledge of her own past. Her heart might not align well with Shar or it might. She doesn't really know, yet.
GriffinPilgrim Feb 20, 2024 @ 8:25am 
Originally posted by EricHVela:
Shar doesn't hate life. She just love loss but not in the mortality sense. She loves loss that lingers. Death ends too quickly.

Bhaal is all about killing everything. He doesn't care how or why. He just wants everyone killed.

The two are at odds.

Also... SH is her own person with limited knowledge of her own past. Her heart might not align well with Shar or it might. She doesn't really know, yet.
Shar's ultimate goal is the end of the universe. Everything else is an attempt to break down the elements tying the world together. The focus on lingering loss is more to stop her followers establishing any new bonds.
Silyon Feb 20, 2024 @ 8:29am 
Shadowheart, contrary to her own opinion of herself, is a straight up terrible cleric of Shar. Sure, she has knowlege of lore, traditions, and rituals literally beaten into her from a young age, but her heart's never really in anything a true devote of Shar would be. That's why she has that painful brand that flares up from time to time. It's a "gift" from Shar that punishes her for straying too far from Shar's own teachings, whether it's becoming to emotionally invested in something or learning something about Selunite teachings that might resonate far more strongly with her.

Essentially, Shadowheart is a good little church girl that hides behind a tough girl exterior. She personally is absolutely repulsed by the Dark Urge regardless of what Shar's opinion of Bhaal might be. Though to be fair, even the other "evil" party members like Minthara and Asterion range from surprised to annoyed by the Urge's bloody habits as well. No one likes a Durge that doesn't resist his impulses, nor is anyone really supposed to.
anachoret Feb 20, 2024 @ 8:36am 
I think it's fair to say no one likes Bhaal cultists, including other Bhaal cultists.
Mander Feb 20, 2024 @ 8:54am 
Because Shadowheart is a reluctant follower of Shar, spoon fed on her cult objective, brainwashed for years but still hearing Selune's calling, under a lot of peer pressure to act as a “proper” Sharite but still caring for the light. Also, kept away from the darkest element of her faith by her mother superior by choice.
In short, she’s a terrible Sharite and largely uninformed on the small print of her own faith.
In a way, Shadowheart tries to promote a moderate version of Shar teachings (for example, on how to deal with grief and loss and how to topple tyrants), not acknowledging that at the end of the day, Shar prefers her followers dead, then enlightening others.
Which is why, when the truth finally dawns, it’s such a punch in the tits for her.

EDIT: Shadowheart is the inverted trope of the priest in Castlevania. Her life’s works make Shar puke probably, but only because Shadowheart is still light aligned and has faith in the light.
Last edited by Mander; Feb 20, 2024 @ 9:00am
Mander Feb 20, 2024 @ 8:56am 
Originally posted by anachoret:
I think it's fair to say no one likes Bhaal cultists, including other Bhaal cultists.

Myrkul and myrkulites are possibly the only exception: they provide their raw materials.
anachoret Feb 20, 2024 @ 8:58am 
Originally posted by Mander:
Originally posted by anachoret:
I think it's fair to say no one likes Bhaal cultists, including other Bhaal cultists.

Myrkul and myrkulites are possibly the only exception: they provide their raw materials.

Haha, a slightly irritated use of procurement specialists, nice.
Mander Feb 20, 2024 @ 9:02am 
Originally posted by anachoret:
Originally posted by Mander:

Myrkul and myrkulites are possibly the only exception: they provide their raw materials.

Haha, a slightly irritated use of procurement specialists, nice.

Somebody has to clean up after Bhaalists orgies of violence, and if there is one thing I can concede to Myrkul, is the stilled order of the grave.
cookie Feb 20, 2024 @ 9:11am 
uh oh - i only have 3 companions left - shadow, asterion and the gith - who have been fine with my urges so far ......sounds like im going to lose another at some point .......
shadowheart is a selunite posing as a shar btw
SonofaGlitch Feb 20, 2024 @ 9:13am 
Shar is a goddess of secrecy, the Dark Urge may be a lot of things, but secret, it ain't
seems consistent to me
Nechlord Feb 20, 2024 @ 10:25am 
Hey now, Bhaal and the Dark urge are very secretive, If everyone's dead no one will know about the killings xD.
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