HOT TAKE: Adult Content is not Breaking the Game

[AokiYakumo]

If anyone wants to make the claim that their game borked because of the inclusion of R18+ content in BG3, I'd like to first ask a few questions:

1) What made you zero in on the R18+?

2) What bugs are you experiencing? Describe the details of the bugs and the nature in which they occur (I did X, then Y, then Z happened and the bug occured).

3) What's connecting the bug to the R18+? Is it dialogue? Is it story progression?

4) Do you have R18+ enabled in game? What are your graphical settings?

5) Vanilla or modded?

[Ellie]

I have a weird graphics bug where there's schlong physics but no tiddy physics. Please fix uwu

[nightwalker83137]

Yeah, but you can turn nudity, etc off so not sure why some people complain?

[AokiYakumo]

Originally posted by nightwalker83137:

Yeah, but you can turn nudity, etc off so not sure why some people complain?

^this^.

[DaciValt]

Because it's inclusion does nothing but appeal people who want to vicariously live their sex lives through fictional characters. It adds nothing other than that.

Now the point they want to make is with it's inclusion it deviates attention from what they deem to be more important things that could do with work.

[His Divine Shadow]

There isn't any 18+ scenes in BG3.
I've seen harder sex scenes in pg13 movies

[GriffinPilgrim]

Originally posted by nightwalker83137:

Yeah, but you can turn nudity, etc off so not sure why some people complain?

I often find it's the homophobic/transphobic crowd pretending toward moral outrage as a way to not say the quiet part loud. The whole "Of course, I'm perfectly fine with gay people but sex shouldn't be in video games!" sort of thing.

[AokiYakumo]

Originally posted by DaciValt:

Because it's inclusion does nothing but appeal people who want to vicariously live their sex lives through fictional characters. It adds nothing other than that.

Now the point they want to make is with it's inclusion it deviates attention from what they deem to be more important things that could do with work.

Would you be so kind as to explain how this applies to the 5 questions?

Bear in mind, I ask this out of respect. This is in no way meant to be an attack on your response, rather an attempt at finding an understanding and achieving civil discourse.

[GriffinPilgrim]

Originally posted by DaciValt:

Because it's inclusion does nothing but appeal people who want to vicariously live their sex lives through fictional characters. It adds nothing other than that.

Deeply disagree. By that logic the battles do nothing but appeal to people who want to vicariously live their violent tendencies through fictional characters.
Sex and romance are part of life. Stories should reflect life.

[Ellie]

Originally posted by DaciValt:

Because it's inclusion does nothing but appeal people who want to vicariously live their sex lives through fictional characters. It adds nothing other than that.

Now the point they want to make is with it's inclusion it deviates attention from what they deem to be more important things that could do with work.

"The inclusion of violence adds nothing but appeal to people who want to vicariously live out their violent fantasies through fictional characters"

- That's how you sound.

Including sex adds flavour and depth to the romance. Romance is part of a good RPG.

And lets not pretend like anyone would complain about the sex bits if Gale wouldn't have hurt their frail masculinity by flirting with their Tav.

[DaciValt]

Originally posted by AokiYakumo:

Would you be so kind as to explain how this applies to the 5 questions?

Bear in mind, I ask this out of respect. This is in no way meant to be an attack on your response, rather an attempt at finding an understanding and achieving civil discourse.

1) They deem the content unimportant to the over arching game
2) I mean there is a laundry list of them right now

And the rest is just trying to misrepresent the point they are trying to make. No-one has said "OMG this has caused X". From what I have seen it's been "Why couldn't they fix other stuff!?"

Originally posted by Lizzy:

"The inclusion of violence adds nothing but appeal to people who want to vicariously live out their violent fantasies through fictional characters"

- That's how you sound.

Including sex adds flavour and depth to the romance. Romance is part of a good RPG.

And lets not pretend like anyone would complain about the sex bits if Gale wouldn't have hurt their frail masculinity by flirting with their Tav.

I never said if it was a good or a bad thing. I am saying it's importance varies from person to person.

And yes thats the entire point of playing video games, just because I said it in regards to sexual content doesn't make it any less untrue.

The whole point is to get some kind of fix from playing them and considering we can't all go out and become the paladins we wanna be then video games provide that.

[Ellie]

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

Originally posted by DaciValt:

Because it's inclusion does nothing but appeal people who want to vicariously live their sex lives through fictional characters. It adds nothing other than that.

Deeply disagree. By that logic the battles do nothing but appeal to people who want to vicariously live their violent tendencies through fictional characters.
Sex and romance are part of life. Stories should reflect life.

Jinx, buy me a coke

[EricHVela]

You can avoid the sexual content, too. It wasn't until many playthroughs later that I decided to deliberately see what the fuss was about. It turns out it was nothing to fuss about.

I still had occasional weirdness without the romancing stuff, but there were no showstoppers.

Being locked out of content due to bad choices or bad rolls isn't a soft-lock in my opinion. Even when I locked myself out a whole bunch of content with my extinction run (the dead don't give quests), I still finished the game.

[GriffinPilgrim]

Originally posted by Lizzy:

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

Deeply disagree. By that logic the battles do nothing but appeal to people who want to vicariously live their violent tendencies through fictional characters.
Sex and romance are part of life. Stories should reflect life.

Jinx, buy me a coke

Okay. But I don't know where you are so I'll drink it for you.

[AokiYakumo]

Originally posted by DaciValt:

Originally posted by AokiYakumo:

Would you be so kind as to explain how this applies to the 5 questions?

Bear in mind, I ask this out of respect. This is in no way meant to be an attack on your response, rather an attempt at finding an understanding and achieving civil discourse.

1) They deem the content unimportant to the over arching game
2) I mean there is a laundry list of them right now

And the rest is just trying to misrepresent the point they are trying to make. No-one has said "OMG this has caused X". From what I have seen it's been "Why couldn't they fix other stuff!?"

Actually, honestly, answering 1 & 2 helps to paint the picture a little clearer now. While I would appreciate a detailed response to 2, and would like to see a less . . . vitriolic (not from you of course) explanation of the matter from others, this is enough.

Thank you for your patience.

[DaciValt]

Originally posted by AokiYakumo:

Actually, honestly, answering 1 & 2 helps to paint the picture a little clearer now. While I would appreciate a detailed response to 2, and would like to see a less . . . vitriolic (not from you of course) explanation of the matter from others, this is enough.

Thank you for your patience.

You generally shouldn't be looking for a specific answer to 2 on general forums, a better place to look would be bug and technical issues forums tbh.