Can a D&D nerd explain to me why Polearm Master doesn't apply to...

[76561198056374986]

tridents?

Someone explain this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. The only legendary "polearm" in the game to my knowledge is Nyrulna, so it seems a bit...lame to me that I can't even use it with this Feat.

[Hobocop]

Because it doesn't apply to tridents on TT.

That's pretty much the only reason.

Not that this specific weapon needs any help at all.

[zero]

Originally posted by polearm master:

When you take the Attack action and attack with only a glaive, halberd, quarterstaff, or spear, you can use a bonus action to make a melee attack with the opposite end of the weapon.

trident isn't one of those

[Oozy Monster]

Hmm, if polearm master includes spears it really should also include tridents. You might want to report this to Larian, I'd bet they'd update it.

[Shagrix]

There are tridents that are worth using????

[Toaster Maximus]

Cause the base rules say they are not and the dm didn't want to home-brew.

[76561198056374986]

Originally posted by Toaster Maximus:

Cause the base rules say they are not and the dm didn't want to home-brew.

If the base rules said that Tieflings should start with a base stat spread of
5
5
5
5
5
5
You lot would still be over here defending 5e. Ugh.

[Lani]

Originally posted by Oozy Monster:

Hmm, if polearm master includes spears it really should also include tridents.

True but this isn't a DnD nerd answer but a HEMA nerd answer.
OP clearly states they wants a DnD nerd answer so not a HEMA one.

Originally posted by Oozy Monster:

You might want to report this to Larian, I'd bet they'd update it.

Sorry, Larian is following DnD ruleset in this:
"While you are wielding a glaive, halberd, pike, quarterstaff, or spear, other creatures provoke an opportunity attack from you when they enter the reach you have with that weapon."

[Oozy Monster]

Originally posted by Shagrix:

There are tridents that are worth using????

Yeah, the best throwable weapon in the game you can pick up early in Act 3 is a +3 legendary trident (Nyrulna).

[Oozy Monster]

Originally posted by Lani:

Originally posted by Oozy Monster:

Hmm, if polearm master includes spears it really should also include tridents.

True but this isn't a DnD nerd answer but a HEMA nerd answer.
OP clearly states they wants a DnD nerd answer so not a HEMA one.

Originally posted by Oozy Monster:

You might want to report this to Larian, I'd bet they'd update it.

Sorry, Larian is following DnD ruleset in this:
"While you are wielding a glaive, halberd, pike, quarterstaff, or spear, other creatures provoke an opportunity attack from you when they enter the reach you have with that weapon."

I'm not entirely sure that a trident isn't a kind of spear. I'd rule that it is if I were the DM, but it's not up to me.

[Frenker]

Originally posted by Toaster Maximus:

didn't want to home-brew.

rofl what a joke that

More like DM didn't know what they were doing or what to home-brew so they just picked ♥♥♥♥ willy-nilly and left some ♥♥♥♥ in the gutter while breaking others and still making some OP and so on and so forth...

[zero]

fun fact, there are spear attacks that are more then frontwards stab, slice motions that would, like all the others on the list, lead into secondary attacks that polearm mastery provide.

tridents, however, tend to universally be a poke focused tool.

like it or leave it looking at the list of weapons they pick, a lot of them can be used to swing around

[Frenker]

reach of weapons is again one of those lost opportunities in this game hardly used at all... God forbid a rpg would have a fully flushed weapon system in 2024..

[Lani]

Originally posted by Oozy Monster:

Originally posted by Lani:

True but this isn't a DnD nerd answer but a HEMA nerd answer.
OP clearly states they wants a DnD nerd answer so not a HEMA one.



Sorry, Larian is following DnD ruleset in this:
"While you are wielding a glaive, halberd, pike, quarterstaff, or spear, other creatures provoke an opportunity attack from you when they enter the reach you have with that weapon."

I'm not entirely sure that a trident isn't a kind of spear. I'd rule that it is if I were the DM, but it's not up to me.

In my campaign spears and tridents aren't polearms as they're both just long shafted stabbing .weqpons whereas polearms should have blunt and piercing strike capability. Pikes are fringe, so are quarterstaffs. But this is HEMA territory and boy does DnD get things historically wrong 🙃