u said no price increment and now cost 9999 ars in my countryh

[Masterpeing]

what a lie its this larian? .... incredible how this can be sold at 10k ars in my country + taxes..

camon

[Quillithe]

Pan Darius Kairos a écrit :

Linde a écrit :

UHM, no. inflation is due to lack of trust in the currency (and a bit of shortage as you said yourself). That lack of trust is due to people like you who speak highly of undermining economies by pirating and smuggling goods that undermine the price and stability of the system. So your greed is what is wrong, not the programmers need to survive fairly in the world. So you should give me a break instead buddy.

nah you are wrong and that's just fact. Inflation is caused by money printing by gov. Every time they print money they are stealing your money by devaluing it. Think about it, if you have 10 limited edition sneakers, they are very expensive lets say 10k for 1 pair of shoes. But then suddenly 10 more are produced and there's 20 instead of 10. That means the value of the shoes are now 5k each, so the people who bought for 10k each got ripped off. If governments could just print money without devaluing then they would never stop printing, just keep printing infinite money lol.

Oh boy, internet economics experts.

I'm sure they completely understand a very complex field.

[Masterpeing]

dulany67 a écrit :

IX | fedrjkzenN. a écrit :

for all the lovely xenophobic guys here, steam recommended price for Argentina 60usd is Argentine Peso ARS$ 649,99 ARS$ 3800,00 +485%


SO...

But steam doesn't care about the dev or publisher, they want to increase sales across their inventory. Those devs and publishers have to worry about their own balance sheets, which is why you often see publishers ignore steam suggestions.

best response but all here only care about his own.

i bought the game for a good price but i fight for these guys cant now afford the game.


this is a trash practice for gaming. this cant cost suddleny 10.000ars insted 2300... its a EA game and lot of time in development.

[ShadowAce666]

Masterpeing a écrit :

dulany67 a écrit :

But steam doesn't care about the dev or publisher, they want to increase sales across their inventory. Those devs and publishers have to worry about their own balance sheets, which is why you often see publishers ignore steam suggestions.

best response but all here only care about his own.

i bought the game for a good price but i fight for these guys cant now afford the game.


this is a trash practice for gaming. this cant cost suddleny 10.000ars insted 2300... its a EA game and lot of time in development.

Once again, Larian has no control over this. It's a normal pre-order for the game so you can play the Early Access version of the game. This has always been the case for BG3, same DOS 1 and 2, as advertised in by Larian in interviews and on the Steam page.

[Linde]

Pan Darius Kairos a écrit :

nah you are wrong and that's just fact. Inflation is caused by money printing by gov. Every time they print money they are stealing your money by devaluing it. Think about it, if you have 10 limited edition sneakers, they are very expensive lets say 10k for 1 pair of shoes. But then suddenly 10 more are produced and there's 20 instead of 10. That means the value of the shoes are now 5k each, so the people who bought for 10k each got ripped off. If governments could just print money without devaluing then they would never stop printing, just keep printing infinite money lol.

Did I say trust in the currency, yes I did. Can a government induce lack of trust in their own currency by printing an endless supply, yes they can and 100%, that is a fast track to a crashed economy. But dumb criminals posing as saviors of the little man by lining their own pockets while inducing inflation themselves don't need government help to do stupid.

[Dragon Master]

Larian didn't change the price. The value of the currency in Argentina dropped. The price of everything will increase there because the value of the currency is just that low.

[Jonas McKay]

Dragon Master a écrit :

Larian didn't change the price. The value of the currency in Argentina dropped. The price of everything will increase there because the value of the currency is just that low.

people have said this over and over, the ones complaining seem to not understand that inflation in their countries of origin means that things priced in USD will cost more in their local currency, cause that's how exchange rates work.

[Mosey]

For the simpleton, if 'X' is valued by the seller at $60 USD (as an example) then they are going to demand an equivalent value to that in your currency as a general rule. The only thing that changed in this equation is how much your money is worth per unit versus the fixed valuation in USD.

That's because the sellers evaluation of it's price is a real number valued in a relatively stable currency. Big companies do not, for example, barter or accept payment in chickens. In some countries that might be normal, but in developed countries that waste a ton of time on digital entertainment that is not how things work.

There is no reason for Larian, or any other gaming company, to give their products away to you for free or at a pittance price. They owe you literally nothing. Could they offer you the game for $0.10 USD or less in your region? Yes, but what possible incentive do you imagine exists for them to do so? Market share in a country that loses them money? People abusing VPN's to get insanely cheap pricing? No. They make more than enough in the stable markets they sell in, and you're lucky they sell in your country at all.

Amusingly, game prices are artificially low for a host of reasons. You should probably be paying closer to $80-$100 USD for any game but companies decided a long time ago to charge you for service and a console then sell the games at a relatively fixed price. Just look at inflation since the 1980's or 1990's versus the price of the average game and this becomes super clear. It also shows how quickly even a stable currency gets devalued over just a few decades.

[Quillithe]

Mosey a écrit :

Amusingly, game prices are artificially low for a host of reasons. You should probably be paying closer to $80-$100 USD for any game but companies decided a long time ago to charge you for service and a console then sell the games at a relatively fixed price. Just look at inflation since the 1980's or 1990's versus the price of the average game and this becomes super clear. It also shows how quickly even a stable currency gets devalued over just a few decades.

Ehhhh, game prices have decreased over time but I wouldn't say they're artificially low. The market is larger so more units sold can compensate for a lower price per unit since there's nearly 0 marginal cost.

And also consumers have been much more willing to pay more through alternative methods - deluxe editions, cosmetic dlc, loot boxes, etc.

As much as people complain about them I don't think they actually hurt sales as much as higher prices. Even if I'd rather just pay more upfront personally.

[Lunduke is the Trump of tech]

Linde a écrit :

Did I say trust in the currency, yes I did. Can a government induce lack of trust in their own currency by printing an endless supply, yes they can and 100%, that is a fast track to a crashed economy. But dumb criminals posing as saviors of the little man by lining their own pockets while inducing inflation themselves don't need government help to do stupid.

You are wrong again. It's simply about corrupt dumb gov printing money and at the same time stealing your money. When they print money they are stealing value of your money and putting it into the money they printed for themselves. It has nothing to do with recent events. This has been going on since the decoupled currency from gold so they can just keep printing and printing money whenever they need some money. Just look a couple centuries ago how much a dollar used to be worth, how much you could buy for it.. today it's worth a fraction of what it used to be. It's simply a corrupt system from the core and being abused by corrupt governments who intentioanlly want to keep the system corrupt, they don't want it fixed because they like stealing our money and printing money.

Look at how much cheaper games used to be 1-2 decades ago, and how much the standard price has gone up. Money printing is the problem why BG3 went up in price. Any time the gov need money, they print it (steal your money).

[RJP]

Unfortunately for you, the game is tied to US $$...so if your countries currency weakens...then you have to pay more in your currency to pay the same in US $$. Price didn't go up...your currency buying power got weaker.

[hannibal_pjv]

The price is the same!
Your currency is not. It is different thing!

If the game company does change the price.. you may complain the company. And in this case the price is still the same.
If your currency value change, then you can blame your country, other countries etc, but not the company, because the price is still the same in the currencies they mentioned in the announcement.

[GrumpyDad]

hannibal_pjv a écrit :

The price is the same!
Your currency is not. It is different thing!

If the game company does change the price.. you may complain the company. And in this case the price is still the same.
If your currency value change, then you can blame your country, other countries etc, but not the company, because the price is still the same in the currencies they mentioned in the announcement.

And ex 25% price up when currency value on stame change max 10%... How about that?
And larian can set prices manual.

[Dragon Master]

GrumpyDad a écrit :

hannibal_pjv a écrit :

The price is the same!
Your currency is not. It is different thing!

If the game company does change the price.. you may complain the company. And in this case the price is still the same.
If your currency value change, then you can blame your country, other countries etc, but not the company, because the price is still the same in the currencies they mentioned in the announcement.

And ex 25% price up when currency value on stame change max 10%... How about that?
And larian can set prices manual.

The price for the game is $60. The price has NOT changed at all. The equivalent price, just in terms of value of the dollar, in Argentina right now, is 13,890.18 Peso.

If that is the price you are paying in peso in Argentina, well, it is still the same price that the game always ways. The value of the argentina peso to the dollar is just that bad.

If the price for the game in Argentina is less than almost 14,000 peso then you are getting the game at a discount.

[Kronk]

Dragon Master a écrit :

GrumpyDad a écrit :

And ex 25% price up when currency value on stame change max 10%... How about that?
And larian can set prices manual.

The price for the game is $60. The price has NOT changed at all. The equivalent price, just in terms of value of the dollar, in Argentina right now, is 13,890.18 Peso.

If that is the price you are paying in peso in Argentina, well, it is still the same price that the game always ways. The value of the argentina peso to the dollar is just that bad.

If the price for the game in Argentina is less than almost 14,000 peso then you are getting the game at a discount.

you are forgeting IVA at 90% the value of what you pay

[Dragon Master]

Gohan ♥♥♥ la percepcion alterada a écrit :

Dragon Master a écrit :

The price for the game is $60. The price has NOT changed at all. The equivalent price, just in terms of value of the dollar, in Argentina right now, is 13,890.18 Peso.

If that is the price you are paying in peso in Argentina, well, it is still the same price that the game always ways. The value of the argentina peso to the dollar is just that bad.

If the price for the game in Argentina is less than almost 14,000 peso then you are getting the game at a discount.

you are forgeting IVA at 90% the value of what you pay

Not forgetting anything.

The conversion rate of 60 US dollars, which the game is priced at to Argenina peso is 13,890.18.

The price for the game is still $60. The price for the game in Argentina is 9,999 peso.

With the conversion rate, it is the equivalent of paying $43.19.

That is a discount.