Sharshooter and GWM useless?

[Lycon]

Been thinking about respeccing and dumping those 2 feats for the stat increase instead. On small enemies you dont need em because you destroy them anyway. But on any significant enemy you get like a 50-55% chance to hit with them enabled... Maybe pure stat increase is better for my barb and ranger/rogue?

[Miqi]

You shouldn't get sharpshooter or GWM unless you have ways to make up for the loss of attack.
fx Bless or guaranteed advantage like reckless attack or Faerie Fire.
Later on you get a lot of gear that lends itself towards gearing in a way you want to play.

Early on it's definitely hard to justify if you can't cover it through other methods.

[Lycon]

Originally posted by Miqi:

You shouldn't get sharpshooter or GWM unless you have ways to make up for the loss of attack.
fx Bless or guaranteed advantage like reckless attack or Faerie Fire.
Later on you get a lot of gear that lends itself towards gearing in a way you want to play.

Early on it's definitely hard to justify if you can't cover it through other methods.

im in act 3 and still find em sub-par. Even though my gear is dope.
Like, without my karlach has 99% chance to hit, with it...50-60% lol. Not worth it.

[Synaptyc]

Counter with advantage and you're good, or better yet, a HOLD spell of sorts. You can toggle it on and off given combat scenarios.

[Forblaze]

You probably don't want both of those on the same character, but they're both optimal for a character that specializes in archery or melee combat.

[ACS36]

Both at bad early game. Even with buffs. You'll miss too much for it to be worth it.

But late game, when you get lots of great items probably worth it.

[ACS36]

Originally posted by Synaptyc:

Counter with advantage and you're good, or better yet, a HOLD spell of sorts. You can toggle it on and off given combat scenarios.

Advantage isn't good enough on it's own. You really don't want to be missing hits. Especially on tactician. You want to eliminate enemies quickly to reduce the enemies actions per turn. The best way to do this is with high % chance to hit.

GWM and Sharpshooter are both bad in the early and mid game.

[Miqi]

Originally posted by Lycon:

Originally posted by Miqi:

You shouldn't get sharpshooter or GWM unless you have ways to make up for the loss of attack.
fx Bless or guaranteed advantage like reckless attack or Faerie Fire.
Later on you get a lot of gear that lends itself towards gearing in a way you want to play.

Early on it's definitely hard to justify if you can't cover it through other methods.

im in act 3 and still find em sub-par. Even though my gear is dope.
Like, without my karlach has 99% chance to hit, with it...50-60% lol. Not worth it.

My 23 str, blessed, reckless attacking Lae'zel dealing 250 dmg per round while hasted on a 85% hit chance on bosses disagrees.

[teksuo]

i feel like its worth it as is and becomes a no brainer if you add buffs to compensate for the -5

[Gamer de esquerda]

Sharpshooter works wonders with rogues: they still have pretty big chance of hitting by staying hidden and gaining advantage on their attacks

Plus, there are a lot of items and oils that increase your attacks.

[Crom]

Well I use RGK sometimes LWD and i can shoot like 5 enemies per turn.

[Morgian]

Sharpshooter removes the penalty from shooting below (weapons only). This happens quite often, but never with the bosses. +1 to attack, damage or AC is usually a solid choice. It is passive, non-situational, and always there.

[jk2l]

Originally posted by Lycon:

Originally posted by Miqi:

You shouldn't get sharpshooter or GWM unless you have ways to make up for the loss of attack.
fx Bless or guaranteed advantage like reckless attack or Faerie Fire.
Later on you get a lot of gear that lends itself towards gearing in a way you want to play.

Early on it's definitely hard to justify if you can't cover it through other methods.

im in act 3 and still find em sub-par. Even though my gear is dope.
Like, without my karlach has 99% chance to hit, with it...50-60% lol. Not worth it.

it really depends on your gears, my paladin have +18 to hits, with GWM i am still around 50% - 90% hit most of the time unless i fight against some boss

those +10 damage is quite a lot.

also if you have advantage on attack you often get like 99% to hits. those -5 on sharpshooter is close to nothing.

i have a gloomstalker/assassin/fighter with sharpshooter. with gurantee advantage at the first turn. i can shoot down lot of mobs right away make a boss fight so much easier

[Gaius]

Originally posted by Lycon:

Been thinking about respeccing and dumping those 2 feats for the stat increase instead. On small enemies you dont need em because you destroy them anyway. But on any significant enemy you get like a 50-55% chance to hit with them enabled... Maybe pure stat increase is better for my barb and ranger/rogue?

They are among the best feats in the game. They require you to circunvent the negative bonus tough, usually with advantage. At late game, martials will hit a LOT every turn, missing 10 dmg per hit is not a good decision.

[Synaptyc]

Originally posted by ACS36:

Originally posted by Synaptyc:

Counter with advantage and you're good, or better yet, a HOLD spell of sorts. You can toggle it on and off given combat scenarios.

Advantage isn't good enough on it's own. You really don't want to be missing hits. Especially on tactician. You want to eliminate enemies quickly to reduce the enemies actions per turn. The best way to do this is with high % chance to hit.

GWM and Sharpshooter are both bad in the early and mid game.

Sorry you have bad luck.

[LordAnubis]

Originally posted by Miqi:

You shouldn't get sharpshooter or GWM unless you have ways to make up for the loss of attack.
fx Bless or guaranteed advantage like reckless attack or Faerie Fire.
Later on you get a lot of gear that lends itself towards gearing in a way you want to play.

Early on it's definitely hard to justify if you can't cover it through other methods.

And how better to eliminate an enemy quickly than to have +10 flat damage? There are many ways to counteract the -5 penalty to hit: gaining advantage, having Bless, having Haste. Advantage is easy to get in this game if you have the right party.