Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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Rupert Giles 2023 年 8 月 15 日 上午 5:35
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WotC should have had Owlcat or Obsidian make BG3
BG3 should have been isometric view with 6 man party. Both Olwcat and/or Obsidian could have done a better job. Larian should just stick to what they did best and made DOS3 or finished their DOS tactical game.
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Quillithe 2023 年 8 月 15 日 下午 4:11 
引用自 Hobocop
引用自 Xiwang
guys, larian PAID to make the game based on dnd. it was not commisioned by WOTC

Swen stated on record that WotC approached them for BG3 because of D:OS2 serving as a proof-of-concept. They were initially turned down after D:OS1 because they were still too unproven at that point.

https://www.pcgamer.com/larian-was-shot-down-the-first-time-it-wanted-to-make-baldurs-gate-3/
Didn't they turn down Obsidian at some point too? Or am I imagining I heard that?

It is true that WotC didn't fund the development (if they did I'd expect a MUCH closer grip on development from them, and honestly a MUCH worse game considering their past history).

But they also didn't just offer the rights up to everyone who came knocking.
最後修改者:Quillithe; 2023 年 8 月 15 日 下午 4:12
TapeWyrm 2023 年 8 月 15 日 下午 4:12 
OK
Hobocop 2023 年 8 月 15 日 下午 4:12 
引用自 Quillithe
引用自 Hobocop

Swen stated on record that WotC approached them for BG3 because of D:OS2 serving as a proof-of-concept. They were initially turned down after D:OS1 because they were still too unproven at that point.

https://www.pcgamer.com/larian-was-shot-down-the-first-time-it-wanted-to-make-baldurs-gate-3/
Didn't they turn down Obsidian at some point too?

It is true that WotC didn't fund the development (if they did I'd expect a MUCH closer grip on development from them, and honestly a MUCH worse game considering their past history).

But they also didn't just offer the rights up to everyone who came knocking.

Yep, they turned away Obsidian and inExile as well, despite the past portfolio of many of the senior members of both of those studios.
最後修改者:Hobocop; 2023 年 8 月 15 日 下午 4:13
Muu 2023 年 8 月 15 日 下午 4:13 
Obsidian is complete garbage lmao
Praesi 2023 年 8 月 15 日 下午 4:15 
An Epic Game with no MTX BS for 60 Bucks and yet there are still People who cry about it. *sigh*
inosk0pedjfk 2023 年 8 月 15 日 下午 4:17 
they would never give owlcat a monopoly on ttrpgs you baboon
Asylum 2023 年 8 月 15 日 下午 4:33 
引用自 smellibear
If we're tossing out folks who can make crpgs why not inXile. I really liked Wastelands 2 and 3 and I meant to play Numenera but never got around to it

Wasteland 2 and 3 lack any form of customization in builds imo. the games are fun but u generally unlock skills u need midway through the game and are just finding random stuff to dumb points into. If Wasteland 3 didnt have the Aspen map i would have quit during that time. but Aspen carried Wasteland 3 so hard imo.
Asylum 2023 年 8 月 15 日 下午 4:36 
引用自 Hobocop
引用自 Quillithe
Didn't they turn down Obsidian at some point too?

It is true that WotC didn't fund the development (if they did I'd expect a MUCH closer grip on development from them, and honestly a MUCH worse game considering their past history).

But they also didn't just offer the rights up to everyone who came knocking.

Yep, they turned away Obsidian and inExile as well, despite the past portfolio of many of the senior members of both of those studios.

Obsidean has pretty much failed CRPG games after pillars1 and 2. no other crpgs they made since then has net profit,

InExile made wasteland games which wouldnt work bcuz they had no custimization for builds. if they cannot manage to make skills etc in that game what makes u think they would beable to handle 100+ spells
⇧⇨⇩⇩⇩ 2023 年 8 月 15 日 下午 4:38 
引用自 Rupert Giles
BG3 should have been isometric view with 6 man party. Both Olwcat and/or Obsidian could have done a better job. Larian should just stick to what they did best and made DOS3 or finished their DOS tactical game.

And why would that have made the game better?
Currently your "argument" amounts to nothing more substantial than saying something like
"I think strawberries taste better than chocolate".
Asylum 2023 年 8 月 15 日 下午 4:48 
引用自 morrganstain
引用自 Rupert Giles
BG3 should have been isometric view with 6 man party. Both Olwcat and/or Obsidian could have done a better job. Larian should just stick to what they did best and made DOS3 or finished their DOS tactical game.

And why would that have made the game better?
Currently your "argument" amounts to nothing more substantial than saying something like
"I think strawberries taste better than chocolate".


I agree with the response, DoS:2 sold very good bcuz it enabled multiplayer, something other Crpg games have lacked for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ages which is sad. Owlcat and Obsidean have never tackled MP in Crpg so there off the table. Also the fact that DnD inspired games like Baldurs gate/Pathfinder arent Tactical turn based has always confused me when its literally based off a Tactical turn based pen and paper game, meant to play with friends, which those other 2 avoid doing(ik ownlcat has implemented it TBC but its very poorly implemented)
Eddie 2023 年 8 月 15 日 下午 8:37 
引用自 Quillithe
引用自 Ponky
Okay I know this is baity. But I absolutely LOVED the Pillars of Eternity series. Obsidian did amazing with those, and honestly I'd like to see their take on a Baldurs Gate game in the future!
I feel like (except for Outer Worlds) Obsidian delivers very well on writing. But I almost wonder if they're better used on Pentiment-type games, since the actual gameplay is usually only okay (except PoE2 which absolutely peaked RtwP crpg combat).

Anyway there's no way they end up on a D&D game instead of a Pilllars setting one with Microsoft ownership I'd guess.

You are extremely correct, god I love their writing in Pillars and Tyranny. We don't talk about Outer Worlds here...

And yeah I know there's almost no way they'd land a Baldurs title, I want them to keep the Pillars universe alive after all. But I think they'd absolutely knock our socks off with the writing and world building
ARCHION 2023 年 8 月 15 日 下午 8:38 
引用自 Mr Fred
Would have been the same generic ultra streamlined game no matter who made it since WotC would still have enforced the terrible 5e ruleset in order to make more $$$ selling books.

That's really the issue. 5e is GARBAGE. They keep dumbing the rule set down to try and bring in more people and now they're targeting weird groups of people.
SinAscendant 2023 年 8 月 15 日 下午 8:40 
>Better job

>BG3 is literally the highest rated game of all time
Moffin Bovin 2023 年 8 月 15 日 下午 8:49 
引用自 SinAscendant
>Better job

>BG3 is literally the highest rated game of all time

to be fair. nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

Fallout 3 was highly rated and that game is hot garbage.
SinAscendant 2023 年 8 月 15 日 下午 8:50 
引用自 Moffin Bovin
引用自 SinAscendant
>Better job

>BG3 is literally the highest rated game of all time

to be fair. nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

Fallout 3 was highly rated and that game is hot garbage.
Fallout 3 is like an 8.5 my guy, not sure what you been playing
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