Is baldurs gate 3 so highly rated because....

[Fast]

Most other titles in the last 3-4 years have been so terrible.

For example if other companies have set the bar so so very low, it changes the level of acceptance and consideration for what is good, and subsequently, something that in the past that would have been considered mediocre or simply decent, is now a masterpiece in ratings?

Is this the future? Deliberately low the bar and then build something that sits just above the bar and have everyone call it a masterpiece?

I think BG3 is very good, but its not a 9/10 its more a solid 7-8/10

I think the overt lies about the the size of the game and the quality dips in act 2 and act 3 respectively. The balance issues, and various other issues people have found with the later portions of the game mean it cannot be a 9. Yet here we are...

"the game dont has no mtx and is complete on launch = 9/10" - the mob.

[AdAstraWill]

Yep, pretty much. Which is a dumb reason to rate it so high to be honest. Its not a bad game, but not game of the decade by any stretch.

[Embarrassing Spaghetti Death]

It's probably a factor, but the excitement has existed since before the recent spate of bad game launches, and the fact that you're saying the game is mediocre as if you're the only sane person in the room shows your bias.

[Fast]

Originally posted by Coldstone Cream Austin:

It's probably a factor, but the excitement has existed since before the recent spate of bad game launches, and the fact that you're saying the game is mediocre as if you're the only sane person in the room shows your bias.

I dont think its mediocre i categorically said, its a good game.
I spoke about mediocre in general terms.

[The Seraph of Tomorrow]

In short, it's like a guy who rates a 4/10 girl a 9/10 because he just got out of boot camp and hasn't seen a real woman in 11 weeks.

So instead of doing better, he just marries her a few months after getting to his first base. Then is divorced within the next 5 years.

Seen it happen a lot, crazy how it's the same in the gaming industry and movie industry these days.

[Master Maniac]

I've played a ton of games. Several of them masterpieces. This one is not a masterpiece... yet.

There's some issues to sort out, the occasional bug, some odd and awkward pauses in dialogue, and wierd quirks due to transitioning a tabletop game fully into a scripted digital environment.

However, that being said, this game is not far from being an absolute masterpiece. Looks gorgeous, mechanics are fun and interesting, story (so far) is incredible, and I haven't had a bad time playing yet. It's very close to that masterpiece threshhold though.

[alex010300]

Yup, tears of the kingdom may be open map but the story is linear so you can't chose to become evil and befriend the devil dragon or enslave it unlike BG3.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by Fast:

Most other titles in the last 3-4 years have been so terrible.

For example if other companies have set the bar so so very low, it changes the level of acceptance and consideration for what is good, and subsequently, something that in the past that would have been considered mediocre or simply decent, is now a masterpiece in ratings?

Is this the future? Deliberately low the bar and then build something that sits just above the bar and have everyone call it a masterpiece?

I think BG3 is very good, but its not a 9/10 its more a solid 7-8/10

I think the overt lies about the the size of the game and the quality dips in act 2 and act 3 respectively. The balance issues, and various other issues people have found with the later portions of the game mean it cannot be a 9. Yet here we are...

"the game dont has no mtx and is complete on launch = 9/10" - the mob.

1. No, there isn't a multi-company conspiracyacross the entire industry to 'lower the bar' so Larian can make a game that people consider good lol

2. You can consider this what you want, but it's easily going to be considered one of the best RPGs ever made by most people. If people keep calling this a 7/10, what in the world is a 9/10?

Balance issues? Come on, it's an RPG, they usually have balance issues orders of magnitude more than this. The genre is NEVER balanced - and most people would rather have a fun game than one neutered by an attempt at balance where all classes feel the same.

Honestly I can't think of a single RPG considered 'good' that's in any way balanced. DAO? BG2? any Bethesda game? Witcher 3? none of these are close to balanced

[Fast]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Originally posted by Fast:

Most other titles in the last 3-4 years have been so terrible.

For example if other companies have set the bar so so very low, it changes the level of acceptance and consideration for what is good, and subsequently, something that in the past that would have been considered mediocre or simply decent, is now a masterpiece in ratings?

Is this the future? Deliberately low the bar and then build something that sits just above the bar and have everyone call it a masterpiece?

I think BG3 is very good, but its not a 9/10 its more a solid 7-8/10

I think the overt lies about the the size of the game and the quality dips in act 2 and act 3 respectively. The balance issues, and various other issues people have found with the later portions of the game mean it cannot be a 9. Yet here we are...

"the game dont has no mtx and is complete on launch = 9/10" - the mob.

1. No, there isn't a multi-company conspiracyacross the entire industry to 'lower the bar' so Larian can make a game that people consider good lol

2. You can consider this what you want, but it's easily going to be considered one of the best RPGs ever made by most people. If people keep calling this a 7/10, what in the world is a 9/10?

Balance issues? Come on, it's an RPG, they usually have balance issues orders of magnitude more than this. The genre is NEVER balanced - and most people would rather have a fun game than one neutered by an attempt at balance where all classes feel the same.

Honestly I can't think of a single RPG considered 'good' that's in any way balanced. DAO? BG2? any Bethesda game? Witcher 3? none of these are close to balanced

1. i never said ids a multi company conspiracy im talking about the level of acceptance after years of degrading the bar.
2. The game is good in the sense, that it holds together as a complete experience, just about, but many facets of the game are not up to scratch, or not great. so it can never be anything more than just good. There is too many parts of the game that are not good, or not great.
3. balance IS IMPORTANT, telling people to scuff their playthroughs to play stuff that is , un optimal, inconvenient or more time consuming because developers could not be bothered to try for a tiny bit of balance across the game is not a good excuse.

This game is exactly what i said it is. Just good.
Is it great? It could be with some further development.
Is it bad? No.

I am never a fan of equivocation. "amg x game does this thefore this is better"...dont.. its pathetic.

[Quillithe]

Nope, balance is not important. That's a whole bunch of modern hooey that none of us old gamers are going to believe, since all the famous and memorable games of the past are the imbalanced ones.

Imbalance is what lets you feel you did something cool.

No idea what you're talking about with scuffing playthroughs, but things being less optional is what makes it exciting when you figure out something better instead of everything being flat and generic and boring.

[sarang]

It can be both.

BG3 is a great game and there have been a severe lack of high quality games.

[********]

BG3 is the best party-based RPG I've ever played in my many years of gaming. Yet, I've never finished any of the D:OS games -- I usually lost interest half way through both of them. DnD 5e works really well in D:OS engine. Plus, the story, characters, and voice acting are brilliant in BG3.

[The Vagrant Knight]

The lack of great crpgs is definitely a factor.
It's the best game in a while, but it has its very obvious flaws which people just hand wave because of hype and lack of higher quality games.

beginning of the game is a proper 9/10 for me, but with the inclusion of act 3, I'd say it's closer to 7.5/10.

[Rommel]

Originally posted by Fast:

Most other titles in the last 3-4 years have been so terrible.

For example if other companies have set the bar so so very low, it changes the level of acceptance and consideration for what is good, and subsequently, something that in the past that would have been considered mediocre or simply decent, is now a masterpiece in ratings?

Is this the future? Deliberately low the bar and then build something that sits just above the bar and have everyone call it a masterpiece?

I think BG3 is very good, but its not a 9/10 its more a solid 7-8/10

I think the overt lies about the the size of the game and the quality dips in act 2 and act 3 respectively. The balance issues, and various other issues people have found with the later portions of the game mean it cannot be a 9. Yet here we are...

"the game dont has no mtx and is complete on launch = 9/10" - the mob.

Who cares what it was rated.....you said you had fun playing it right.
So the who cares....it's about the fun factor and it seems most are having
fun and have gotten their money's worth unlike many other titles and the
triple A games who nickle and dim you to death and many aren't even worth
50 bucks let alone $70 and in some cases over 100 bucks!

[The Vagrant Knight]

Originally posted by Rommel:

Who cares what it was rated.....you said you had fun playing it right.
So the who cares....it's about the fun factor and it seems most are having
fun and have gotten their money's worth unlike many other titles and the
triple A games who nickle and dim you to death and many aren't even worth
50 bucks let alone $70 and in some cases over 100 bucks!:praisesun:

not gonna lie, but this is a bit short sighted. Not that we have any power over it, but critical thinking is rather important. just saying "it's fine" at every new game that comes out will inevitably lead to companies putting in less and less effort because they can get away with it.

Act 3 completely unravels. Larian has a history with this, sadly. Simply lauding them without any critique will just cause them to keep releasing front loaded games to appease the people who don't play past the first 10 hours.

[Zero McDol]

I'd put it at a 8/10 myself.