Bane or Bless spells

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What should i pick? Is there any point to pick both?

[Ackranome]

Bless.

[yuzhonglu]

Bless. There's also a staff that adds another 1d4 to bless, so now bless is a +2d4 to attack rolls and saves.

[Black Hammer]

Bless is generally better. Bane is nice in theory, but it gives the enemy a saving throw, so odds are when you really want it to work, it won't.

[Morgian]

Always pick the buff over the debuff, as it has no save.

[Havean]

Bless. It's easier to target. Also if the enemy are dead you don't have to worry about them hitting you.

[Kyutaru]

You want both.

Bless buffs your party's Attack Roll hit chances, but does nothing to help your wizards unless they're flinging cantrips. It also doesn't keep you alive.

Bane LOWERS enemy attacks and saving throws, which can be huge for party survival while also weakening them to magic attacks. Good to use on bosses who are easy enough to hit just with Advantage and you don't need Bless for them.

[Stu -1]

if you use both be aware about how concentration work and either have two casters that can use these spells or know that casting one ends the effect of the other

[Vizual]

I generally always have bless going. It's one of the best buffs in the game. Bane is good as other have said in theory, but it can be resisted or late game countered.

[NzFox]

as others pointed out, there is a staff that turns bless from 'a very nice buff' into 'game breaking'

[Minnzy]

Originally posted by Havean:

Bless. It's easier to target. Also if the enemy are dead you don't have to worry about them hitting you.

Ah, the good ol best defense is extreme offense approach. I dig it!

[Gaius]

Bless is amazing, Bane is situational - and both require concentration. I seldon see the need for Bane, bless is kinda permanent until really high level stuff requires concentration and even then I use it often for rolls in dialogues.

[just Rex]

A good early game tip is to pay attention to what spells are 'Concentration' spells.

You can only ever have one of those up at a time, as your character has to 'channel' them. And some positive/negative effects will be far superior to others. (Tier 3 Spell examples: My Sorc will almost always be channeling a twin-cast Haste. My Cleric will throw on Spirit Guardians and Fly around enemies. )

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Thanks guys