Paladin Multiclass & Oathbreaker, Auras, Warlock or Sorc

[VoiD]

Just wondering about where to go from now, I just hit level 7, I see most people commenting about Sorc+Paladin as the best combo for more/higher spell slots, and tons of smiting, while warlock can get you a nice restat on lvl 3 with pact of the blade and a full charisma build, making all of your damage scale off it, and also making it so it's easier to keep your aura effects maxed out.

My main issue was, where is the cutoff point for paladin? lvl 5 is all you'll need for the 2nd attack, sure, but, then again, if you're going warlock, you can get it from it's lvl 5 as well, you could go up to lvl 6 to get the aura, which is great and all, but then you're looking at a restat starting at level 9, kind of at the endgame already, is it even worth it at that point? Also, most guides won't even mention the lvl 7 oathbreaker aura, which also gives your team +5 damage (if you manage to max out CHA, which is a lot easier with pact of the blade), which is just as powerful as the lvl 6 upgrade, and then there's the extra feat at the next level, which led me to wonder if multiclassing an oathbreaker is even a good idea at all.

ideas?

PS: Daily reminder dual wielding sucks, and BG3 made it even worse for them.

[Clive Hawkins]

Oath of Devotion / Vengeance / Oathbreaker
Level 6 is the main cut off for Aura of Protection (+5 to all saving throws party-wide.)

Oath of the Ancients
Level 7 is the main cut off for Aura of Warding (Halves spell damage party-wide.)

Warlock is superior at the moment due to the Extra Attack from Paladin which stacks with the Extra Attack from Pact of the Blade (Enhanced Pact Weapon) Warlock.

So I recommend Ancients 7 / Fiend 5 if you want to min-max.
- Temp health on each kill
- Two fireballs that come back on short rest
- Three attacks per turn (smites on each)
- Most powerful ranged cantrip in the game (with a knockback.)
- Devil's sight so you don't have to pick a darkvision race.

I'd start Paladin 1 for Heavy Armor / AoE Heal / Lay on Hands
Then go straight to Paladin 1 / Warlock 5
You can start with 16 STR and later respec it to 17 CHR when Warlock hits level 3.
Or just use Eldritch Blast from levels 2-4 with no respecs.

[VoiD]

Originally posted by Clive Hawkins:

Warlock is superior at the moment due to the Extra Attack from Paladin which stacks with the Extra Attack from Pact of the Blade (Enhanced Pact Weapon) Warlock.

Wait what?!

Well, that's nutts.

[Clive Hawkins]

Forget to mention:

People don't mention Aura of Hate (Level 7 Oathbreaker) because it doesn't affect your entire team. Only yourself, undead, and fiends (this includes enemies.) Only good for a Necromancer party.

[VoiD]

Originally posted by Clive Hawkins:

Forget to mention:

People don't mention Aura of Hate (Level 7 Oathbreaker) because it doesn't affect your entire team. Only yourself, undead, and fiends (this includes enemies.) Only good for a Necromancer party.

Damn, thanks, that makes sense, I just read aura and I thought it would obviously affect your party too.

[VoiD]

By the way, how do warlock spellslots interact with other casters?

Do they add up in any way? Or do they upgrade their tier if you take other casting classes?

[Snake_In_The_Eye]

Originally posted by VoiD:

By the way, how do warlock spellslots interact with other casters?

Do they add up in any way? Or do they upgrade their tier if you take other casting classes?

Separate, you can only cast your warlock spells with them.

[VoiD]

Thanks