Wait, why am I supposed to care about Nere?

[Coldhands]

Spoilers for Grymforge, I guess.

Who is Nere and why do I care that he's trapped? My companions are talking like we need to save the drow trapped behind the rockfall, as though there's been a reason for us to care laid out already, but there hasn't. I just heard the guy in charge here got himself trapped, but this place is mostly Absolute cultists so trapped leader sounds like good news to me.

What did I miss that explains why I need Nere alive or even being here helps my overall quest? Feels like I missed a cutscene or a dialogue somewhere.

[Dr. Sinclair]

the general idea is that helping him can help you infiltrate deeper into the cult.

[[OTS]EchoZenLogos]

Nere is a True Soul, which is something the game points out quite well.

They also supposedly have the means to get a Moon Lantern as far as I recall, which is needed in the Shadowlands to be able to continue.

So you should "care" about them in that they are a major character you can use to progress and gain the trust of those in Grymforge, but I ended up freeing and then immediately killing him. I had to find another way, sadly, but you could also presumably be buddy buddy.

[[OTS]EchoZenLogos]

If your companions are giving you hints like that before the dialogue has come up, that's odd, but you definitely should be able to get more info by talking with people nearby.

[SushiWade]

Don't they actually say the contrary? that they don't care if Nere actually dies? Technically is needed for a quest of Spaw, where he ask to bring to him his head, after you kill the duergars on the beach. Not really a personal motive, he is just the big guy of that section, the cause of why duergar attacked the fungi guys and enslaved the gnomes.

[Mizu]

You didn't get a quest from the myconids to go there and kill his ass before you found the place?

[belangf]

He's also trapped with some gnomes, so if you want to help the gnomes it`s a good idea to rescue Nere before they all die.

[Coldhands]

Originally posted by dcalebh:

You didn't get a quest from the myconids to go there and kill his ass before you found the place?

No. And now that you mention it, I think that bugged on me. I talked to Glut, and he wanted to know where I came from, but after I told him and found out his colony had been killed (but not why or by who), the conversation ended and he’d only give me one line about him not really belonging when I tried to talk to him again. It really felt like there was supposed to be more to that interaction that I wasn’t getting.

So Sovereign Glut is where you’re supposed to learn about Nere?

[Matty101]

Originally posted by Coldhands:

Originally posted by dcalebh:

You didn't get a quest from the myconids to go there and kill his ass before you found the place?

No. And now that you mention it, I think that bugged on me. I talked to Glut, and he wanted to know where I came from, but after I told him and found out his colony had been killed (but not why or by who), the conversation ended and he’d only give me one line about him not really belonging when I tried to talk to him again. It really felt like there was supposed to be more to that interaction that I wasn’t getting.

So Sovereign Glut is where you’re supposed to learn about Nere?

Glut asks to accompany you to kill the invaders(ones in the underdark beach area), you can do it with or without him(and take him there later to show him) at that point he asks you to kill the other sovereign so his can take over.
In my play i went against him and helped the other sovereign who then gave the quest for Nere and i'm assuming if you help glut he will give it after you take out the original colony of myco's.

[RACHMANOVSKI]

There is another sovereign on top of the big mushroom.

Glut is notthe sovereign that want you to kill nere.

The Sovereign want you to:

1. Kill the Duergar in the Beach
2. Specifically bring "Nere's Head".

[RACHMANOVSKI]

Hmm.. pretty sure seen you somewhere around here. Haven't you be here since EA or I meet in you in other forum?

[Coldhands]

Originally posted by RACHMANOVSKI:

There is another sovereign on top of the big mushroom.

Glut is notthe sovereign that want you to kill nere.

Hmm, that’s news to me. I guess I’ll reload and go look for the actual sovereign then.

[The Seraph of Tomorrow]

Originally posted by Dr. Sinclair:

the general idea is that helping him can help you infiltrate deeper into the cult.

Which, spoiler alert,is a total waste of time, as you get the same ending if you infiltrate or not, and the exact same quests, in the exact same locations.

[RACHMANOVSKI]

Originally posted by Coldhands:

Originally posted by RACHMANOVSKI:

There is another sovereign on top of the big mushroom.

Glut is notthe sovereign that want you to kill nere.

Hmm, that’s news to me. I guess I’ll reload and go look for the actual sovereign then.

Glut is a refugee Sovereign, from destroyed circle. He wanted to kill the Sovereign who took them in. You get rep for killing Glut.

[Dr. Sinclair]

Originally posted by Tech-Priest:

Originally posted by Dr. Sinclair:

the general idea is that helping him can help you infiltrate deeper into the cult.

Which, spoiler alert,is a total waste of time, as you get the same ending if you infiltrate or not, and the exact same quests, in the exact same locations.

I know. That is what saddens me.

[Oddball]

You're not... just cut his head off lol.

SPOILER:

There's a dialogue option to cause a fight while siding with Nere (and he will kill one of his Lt in the process)... this starts a huge war (w/ gnomes) in the main chamber next to the rock fall. I had to play it several times to figure out who was fighting who, because there's a lot of mind-casting that's causing NPCs to switch sides. The point is, start the battle, but stay clear of the fight. Let them pick each other off, then clean up the remainder. There's a little side room that's mostly protected, I took the high ground archers above that, then just waited for any survivors to find me. I did use the ogre horn, and they added to the hilarity and confusion of the situation. One of the Ogres managed to do some weird WWF wrestling move ("knee" toss or something?) , and throw Nere into the lava for me. Luckily his body was close enough to the edge I could loot and still get his head without getting burned. Probably the best fight I've had in the game thus far....

... about the gnome's involvement, I found out their role after the fact, and that there was a injured gnome female laying down next to the Sovereign, where you can get a quest to rescue her gnome friends that end up in the fight with Nere. Since she was hard to see when I first was talking to the shroom before heading to find Nere, I talked to her after the fact and informed her Nere killed them all. I really didn't care about rescuing gnomes, they're all fodder in the giant Nere fight anyways lol.