Stuck in prison?

[Kamiyama]

So I'm at the druid grove and I have been wandering around talking to all the NPC's. I watched one of the children get slapped when the human had his locket stolen, and I intervened and persuaded the guard to let the boy go with a warning. Good thing right?

Later on I found the hideout where all the children are hiding. Mol was down there and threatened to beat me up. I apologized and persuaded him to let me go, and agreed not to bother his group anymore.

So then I reached the top of the gate and the tieflings up on top of the gate acted like I was a criminal. The narrator said "Mol was as good as his word, and spread rumors that you were threatening children" my options were to pass a DC 20 persuasion check (hard), attack the tieflings, or agree to go to prison.

I did attack them once - I can kill them easily enough, but then all the tieflings in the grove aggro me including Nadira who I need to talk to.

So I think, I did nothing wrong so I'll just go to prison and talk it out with the guards.

I'm in prison now. There are no guards. I can't pick lock the door. Help?

[Zimripple]

Originally posted by Asylum:

Originally posted by Kamiyama:

OKAY WTF

Passing the DC 20 deception check doesn't change you being a criminal either. The NPC will let you go but you still can't talk to the NPC or they repeat the same dialog and require you to pass another DC 20 check.

WHY IS THIS SO DAMN BROKEN?

u are a "fugitive" for like 30seconds, wait out the debuff timer jesus it shows it on ur buff/debuff list.

Genius!! Why didn't I think of that... oh wait, they just arrest you again next time you run into them after the debuff wears off.

[r e i]

Passing the D20 check won't do a thing if your game is bugged. I passed the check but the game still saw me as a criminal. The annoying thing was that Mol did not report me but the game still treated it as such. This whole Mol section is bugged I hope it'll be fixed soon.

[angelsenvy228]

Originally posted by Kamiyama:

Originally posted by Jaggid Edje:

I never got thrown in prison there, but it looked to me like the wall to the rear could be broken (it says it's a door). By rear, I mean the wall that is to the right if you were entering the cell through the doorway.

Anyway, just past that wall is a ledge you can walk on, so you'd just need to jump down to there, and then follow the ledge, jump one more time and over there is a secret door to a underground tunnel that you can use to enter and exit the grove without going past gaurds.

The path out is filled with exploding mushrooms that will launch you off a cliff and become insta-dead. I'm a dwarf not an acrobat.

Even if you get out that way, it resolves nothing with the NPC's who treat you like a criminal. They are still there and will repeat the same dialog.

I'm not seeing how BG3 is the latest, most advanced RPG of it's time when Skyrim had a way to decriminalize you by serving your time in prison. Why am I not able to sleep off the crime by interacting with the bed in the prison cell?

Why can't I talk with the guards and work out my crimes by paying a fine?

There's not proper mechanic to leave the cell except by sneaking out, and that doesn't change the fact that you're still going to be treated like a criminal.

Why does Mol get away with spreading vile lies about you?

When I went to jail there I jumped out the window, waited 16 turns for the wanted debuff to go away, then I could walk around and do whatever I wanted and get my gear out of the chest, they shouldnt try to arrest you again as long as you wait for the wanted debuff to fall off.

[agentkido]

disguise is your best friend.

[Kaladin]

Originally posted by Kamiyama:

This game should not have left beta.

It is an alpha at best.

Games work better than this at release.

I'm confused. Now that people told you about the debuff timer. You've gone ghost after non-stop complaining? I guess people only discuss issues when they perceive a problem, but never like addressing a resolved issue that arose from their negligence.

[Data]

Originally posted by Phero:

You beat up those kids, didn't you?

I think worse, the way the grove turns on the party :D

[saice]

Welp time to just go evil and murder them all.

[Thuguu-senpai]

Originally posted by Kaladin:

Originally posted by Kamiyama:

This game should not have left beta.

It is an alpha at best.

Games work better than this at release.

I'm confused. Now that people told you about the debuff timer. You've gone ghost after non-stop complaining? I guess people only discuss issues when they perceive a problem, but never like addressing a resolved issue that arose from their negligence.

Probably couldn't fix it and either stopped playing or reloaded a save and just kept going. I'm having to re-do all of the assault on Moonrise because a harper got caught in an acid flask aoe and sent me to prison the moment the combat ended. Killing the "prisoner" character doesn't fix it, neither does downing it then healing him. Can't send him back to camp, doesn't have any dialogue. Attacking harpers *after* the fight with Ketheric gives "violence between prisoners isn't allowed" dialogue, but no choice to go back to jail, just fight to death. Going to moonrise prison doesn't fix it, "escaping" from moonrise prison through other means doesn't fix it, and game won't let the character fast travel either. They also can't continue to the Road to Baldur's Gate. There's no debuff that says they're a prisoner, and long resting doesn't fix it either.

So i have to re-do the assault on moonrise towers, the mindflayer colony, the fight with ketheric, and all the dialogue after.


All because Larian has never once been able to code a proper prisoner/crime system (guards are more psychic than oblivion's guards). The only saving grace is that I'm level 10, and all of those fights were easy. But now I'm just gonna AOE everything to death.