Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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Platostotle Aug 13, 2023 @ 7:40am
Anyone else hate The Dark Urge?
I just started a play as the DU and I hate how the dialogue options will sometimes lie, and take agency away from my decisions. I thought I'd get a chance to resist temptation, but no, I'm just walking around kicking woodland animals to death and hacking off my own companion's hands.
Originally posted by The Old Song:
First I can just say that I don't presently have complaints about Dark Urge.

And, given the narrative nature of the origin, I think there *should* by multitudes of moments where you, as the player, have no choice, while the character proceeds to take a forced action. Regardless of whether or not there are such moments, I say their should be.
[Additionally, I think this arguably could/should be the case for *every* origin character. Certain forced choices based on who you're supposed to be playing. The forced choices just happen to be, well Dark Urgey for Dark Urge.]

Secondly I can confirm that yes absolutely there have been moments where I was offered no choice as player. Spoiler here. Moments that were either a cut-scene, or when a list of options should have shown, there was only "1. Continue..." and it led to something Urgey.
- Kicking the squirrel was non-optional. The narrator just droned on about how cute it was then it suddenly got punted.
- The goblin that tells you to kiss its feet. Only option was "continue" and it led to biting off the goblins toe.
- The long rest interrupt murder any Urge player knows about.

Lastly I was under the potentially incorrect impression that whether or not you can resist the urge at given points was based on past moments.
That letting the urge do as urge does makes you less able to resist later, potentially making future choices not be choices when you could have resisted if you had resisted more earlier.
Some hidden plotflag system or something.
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LeftPaw Aug 14, 2023 @ 12:49pm 
Put it this way I gave up my play-through of the dark urge soon after the first incident. It was making me feel sick. I know it's suppose to be that way but going that far down the dark road was not for me.
The dark urge is probably the worst monster in the game.
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KingOfFriedChicken Aug 14, 2023 @ 12:54pm 
Originally posted by LeftPaw:
Put it this way I gave up my play-through of the dark urge soon after the first incident. It was making me feel sick. I know it's suppose to be that way but going that far down the dark road was not for me.
The dark urge is probably the worst monster in the game.

There is a good reason for that but I literally couldn't say without heavy spoilers to their end story lol its to early after release just yet lol
Platostotle Aug 14, 2023 @ 12:58pm 
Originally posted by mutantbeth:
Originally posted by Poop King:

And you have to play for than 2 days to find the stuff where you have no option to resist the urge. Its such a huge issue that spoiling it would be superbad for everyone in this thread, but its huge enough that it will make a lot of players immediately delete their DU player and start again as Tav.

You have been warned, keep playing DU at your own peril.
played dark urge more than 2 days. u are given every option to resist lol stop spreading misinformation. the only forced kill is alfira and even that can be cheesed where you end up killing some random dragonborn instead.
There are several instances in the first act alone where you are given no options to resist the urge.
mutantbeth Aug 14, 2023 @ 12:59pm 
Originally posted by Platostotle:
Originally posted by mutantbeth:
played dark urge more than 2 days. u are given every option to resist lol stop spreading misinformation. the only forced kill is alfira and even that can be cheesed where you end up killing some random dragonborn instead.
There are several instances in the first act alone where you are given no options to resist the urge.
list them right now cause i can only list 1
Platostotle Aug 14, 2023 @ 1:38pm 
I marked it as the answer to this topic so I wouldn't have to keep listing them. Scroll up.
mutantbeth Aug 14, 2023 @ 1:41pm 
Originally posted by Platostotle:
I marked it as the answer to this topic so I wouldn't have to keep listing them. Scroll up.
u are not forced to kill the squirrel or bite off the goblins toe. literallyplaying dark urge squirell still lived and i didnt have to get near any feet e.e
Last edited by mutantbeth; Aug 14, 2023 @ 1:41pm
Platostotle Aug 14, 2023 @ 1:46pm 
If your argument is the game can't force you to do something if you just don't interact with it, then it's hardly a compelling argument.
mutantbeth Aug 14, 2023 @ 1:53pm 
Originally posted by Platostotle:
If your argument is the game can't force you to do something if you just don't interact with it, then it's hardly a compelling argument.
i interacted with both :) i have saves before each should i share?
Hathur Aug 14, 2023 @ 3:21pm 
This game does nothing that the protagonist of BG2 endured over 23 years ago. It's just more.. vivid. Anyone who played (or watched a summation of) BG1 and 2 should NOT be remotely surprised by what is happening in BG3 to a Dark Urge character. Complaint is silly.
Originally posted by mutantbeth:
Originally posted by Platostotle:
I marked it as the answer to this topic so I wouldn't have to keep listing them. Scroll up.
u are not forced to kill the squirrel or bite off the goblins toe. literallyplaying dark urge squirell still lived and i didnt have to get near any feet e.e

Yall got to bite off toes? Damn I missed out rofl
Anomalous Alien Aug 14, 2023 @ 4:43pm 
I've never even encountered this yet in the game....?!
Platostotle Aug 14, 2023 @ 5:31pm 
Originally posted by mutantbeth:
Originally posted by Platostotle:
If your argument is the game can't force you to do something if you just don't interact with it, then it's hardly a compelling argument.
i interacted with both :) i have saves before each should i share?
Squirrel, no interaction beyond clicking on it.
https://www.tiktok.com/@phoenix_liger/video/7265875943892192530
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mutantbeth Aug 14, 2023 @ 5:33pm 
Originally posted by Platostotle:
Originally posted by mutantbeth:
i interacted with both :) i have saves before each should i share?
Squirrel, no interaction beyond clicking on it.
https://www.tiktok.com/@phoenix_liger/video/7265875943892192530
actually play dark urge. activate speak to animals. talk to squirrel without killing it. easy to follow guide?
The Old Song Aug 14, 2023 @ 6:23pm 
Originally posted by mutantbeth:
Originally posted by Platostotle:
Squirrel, no interaction beyond clicking on it.
https://www.tiktok.com/@phoenix_liger/video/7265875943892192530
actually play dark urge. activate speak to animals. talk to squirrel without killing it. easy to follow guide?
actually play dark urge. don't have speak to animals. interact with squirrel. Listen to narrator go on and on about squirrel being cute. Suddenly be forced to kill with no player choice or input. Easy to follow guide?

Saying "find a potion or something to use the spell your character doesn't have, before even entering the interaction" is not a valid retort. What is being discussed is the presence of moments where they player doesn't get to make a choice during an interaction. Any instant in any part of the game where a choice doesn't exist when it could have or would have.
The squirrel provides one such interaction, and not the only one.
The goblin who wants you to kiss his feet provides another. Anything before the moment where he tells you to kiss his feet and the choice to accept or refuse is irrelevant. When the conversation reached that point, where other characters get to choose, urge automatically bit off a toe.

I have no issue with how Urge works, but you need to stop moronically denying that it works the way it does, when anyone and everyone who actually plays Urge can see that you're wrong so quickly after starting a run.
mutantbeth Aug 14, 2023 @ 7:13pm 
Originally posted by The Old Song:
Originally posted by mutantbeth:
actually play dark urge. activate speak to animals. talk to squirrel without killing it. easy to follow guide?
actually play dark urge. don't have speak to animals. interact with squirrel. Listen to narrator go on and on about squirrel being cute. Suddenly be forced to kill with no player choice or input. Easy to follow guide?

Saying "find a potion or something to use the spell your character doesn't have, before even entering the interaction" is not a valid retort. What is being discussed is the presence of moments where they player doesn't get to make a choice during an interaction. Any instant in any part of the game where a choice doesn't exist when it could have or would have.
The squirrel provides one such interaction, and not the only one.
The goblin who wants you to kiss his feet provides another. Anything before the moment where he tells you to kiss his feet and the choice to accept or refuse is irrelevant. When the conversation reached that point, where other characters get to choose, urge automatically bit off a toe.

I have no issue with how Urge works, but you need to stop moronically denying that it works the way it does, when anyone and everyone who actually plays Urge can see that you're wrong so quickly after starting a run.
multiple classes have speak to animals spell at level 1 so idk what ur talking about. so yes t is a choice. dont want to kill the squirrel? have speak to animals active. thats a possible choice for the dark urge. as for the goblin ur lying because i played EA many times and my first playthrough full release as dark urge everything went the same except for the option to bite his toe off. Again it was just an option. i never bit it off in my playthrough. im in act 3 the game only forced me once to kill alfira and thats it.
Last edited by mutantbeth; Aug 14, 2023 @ 7:14pm
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