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Platostotle Aug 13, 2023 @ 7:40am
Anyone else hate The Dark Urge?
I just started a play as the DU and I hate how the dialogue options will sometimes lie, and take agency away from my decisions. I thought I'd get a chance to resist temptation, but no, I'm just walking around kicking woodland animals to death and hacking off my own companion's hands.
Originally posted by The Old Song:
First I can just say that I don't presently have complaints about Dark Urge.

And, given the narrative nature of the origin, I think there *should* by multitudes of moments where you, as the player, have no choice, while the character proceeds to take a forced action. Regardless of whether or not there are such moments, I say their should be.
[Additionally, I think this arguably could/should be the case for *every* origin character. Certain forced choices based on who you're supposed to be playing. The forced choices just happen to be, well Dark Urgey for Dark Urge.]

Secondly I can confirm that yes absolutely there have been moments where I was offered no choice as player. Spoiler here. Moments that were either a cut-scene, or when a list of options should have shown, there was only "1. Continue..." and it led to something Urgey.
- Kicking the squirrel was non-optional. The narrator just droned on about how cute it was then it suddenly got punted.
- The goblin that tells you to kiss its feet. Only option was "continue" and it led to biting off the goblins toe.
- The long rest interrupt murder any Urge player knows about.

Lastly I was under the potentially incorrect impression that whether or not you can resist the urge at given points was based on past moments.
That letting the urge do as urge does makes you less able to resist later, potentially making future choices not be choices when you could have resisted if you had resisted more earlier.
Some hidden plotflag system or something.
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Abyss Aug 13, 2023 @ 7:41am 
Its literally a story about how you have an uncontrollable urge. You aint gonna get over it over night. Takes fighting.
Adam__86 Aug 13, 2023 @ 7:41am 
You can ignore those urges
Xenomorph Kitty Aug 13, 2023 @ 7:42am 
Yeah, there are literally options to ignore those urges and they're pretty clearly written
Adam__86 Aug 13, 2023 @ 7:43am 
The whole point is you either give in by choosing that option or don't
morejolli Aug 13, 2023 @ 7:43am 
Yikes, thanks for the warning. DU is a hard pass then.
Sythalin Aug 13, 2023 @ 7:46am 
Anyone else hate people who don't read/research the roles they choose to play?

Delete your save and just play a normal custom/origin character. From the sounds of it, this is what you're actually looking for. Don't know why you even bothered rolling up DU if you have a problem with sometimes "failing" to resist the temptations when it is literally the entire point of that origin story.
Chaosolous Aug 13, 2023 @ 7:48am 
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/urge

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/urge

https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/urge

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/urge

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/urge_1

Now that we've covered the word urge. Using basic language skills, adding "dark" (in the context of evil), then one may draw a reasonable conclusion that you would not be in control.

I don't understand the confusion.
DogWater Aug 13, 2023 @ 7:50am 
Personally playing a Dark Urge character at the moment and yes, some things I will not spoil were absolutely shocking and frustrating. That's the whole point of the character though. If nothing majorly problematic happened it would have very little weight as a RP option. I actually appreciate that the homicidal impulses are more than light flavoring over a vanilla role. It surprised me in a very positive way. I would suggest avoiding it as a first playthrough, in hindsight, but not for the reasons usually stated. I think some of the darker twists would land much harder on a repeat playthrough.
Rommel Aug 13, 2023 @ 7:55am 
Originally posted by Platostotle:
I just started a play as the DU and I hate how the dialogue options will sometimes lie, and take agency away from my decisions. I thought I'd get a chance to resist temptation, but no, I'm just walking around kicking woodland animals to death and hacking off my own companion's hands.

Why did you pick it? I mean "The Dark Urge" yeah the alarm bells should be going off
just for the name alone without even researching it......some people are just not the
sharpest tools in the old shed.:steamfacepalm:
Platostotle Aug 13, 2023 @ 7:58am 
Originally posted by Seri:
Yeah, there are literally options to ignore those urges and they're pretty clearly written
There are literally times when your character acts without any player input, and many of the options actually lie about what you're choosing, so no, I don't agree with this take
Xenomorph Kitty Aug 13, 2023 @ 7:59am 
Originally posted by Platostotle:
Originally posted by Seri:
Yeah, there are literally options to ignore those urges and they're pretty clearly written
There are literally times when your character acts without any player input, and many of the options actually lie about what you're choosing, so no, I don't agree with this take

Except that doesn't happen. There is literally one time someone is killed with zero input or ability to stop it. The rest of the time you can ignore the urges. It gets more difficult the closer you get to endgame as it'll carry dice checks.

Things are very clearly written.
Harukage Aug 13, 2023 @ 8:03am 
There is literally only one moment where you can't influence the outcome. And it is there to show you how serious your affliction is.
In every other case you have a choice to resist the Urge or comply.
Also the whole story of the Dark Urge is directly linked to the main plot, so i prety much consider it as a MUST if you are rolling a custom character.
Last edited by Harukage; Aug 13, 2023 @ 8:04am
Platostotle Aug 13, 2023 @ 8:04am 
Originally posted by Sythalin:
Anyone else hate people who don't read/research the roles they choose to play?

Delete your save and just play a normal custom/origin character. From the sounds of it, this is what you're actually looking for. Don't know why you even bothered rolling up DU if you have a problem with sometimes "failing" to resist the temptations when it is literally the entire point of that origin story.
I wouldn't have a problem if there was some way to resist and I failed, or if there was some RP consequence to resisting too much like with Oathbreakers or Wyll, but sometimes your character just acts without any player input, or the dialogue option is a lie, and that's what I don't like about it. I have no agency in this character.
DogWater Aug 13, 2023 @ 8:07am 
You incredibly rarely act against your will without any chance to do something about it and that's... fine? If it bothers you so much roll another character and do a DU playthrough at some later time. 99%+ of the time you absolutely do have agency.
Platostotle Aug 13, 2023 @ 8:08am 
Originally posted by Seri:
Originally posted by Platostotle:
There are literally times when your character acts without any player input, and many of the options actually lie about what you're choosing, so no, I don't agree with this take

Except that doesn't happen. There is literally one time someone is killed with zero input or ability to stop it. The rest of the time you can ignore the urges. It gets more difficult the closer you get to endgame as it'll carry dice checks.

Things are very clearly written.
You're flat out wrong. I can count at least 3 times in my quite short play that I had no input, or a choice was subverted through deceptive dialogue options.
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