save captain Grisly ?

[Blust]

spoiler for act 3 but : is it possible to save her or is it bugged ? The way it worked in Act 1 doesnt work in Act 3 so I'm suspecting a bug but hell, if anyone know how to do it, let me know

solution : sneak to go straight to Ethel, ignore the 4. Ethel will invoke them during battle : ignore them again, focus Ethel and shrooms. Then it works

[Aslinn]

I did the same thing I did the first time you first Ethel in Act 1. I wore the masks, cast protect from good and evil on everyone, went to passives and toggled on "knockout". It is VERY IMPORTANT that when you want to knock out people instead of kill them you only hit them with a normal melee attack or unarmed strike. If you hit them with magic or a special attack it can still kill them.

Once you have knocked them out, do not remove their masks! It kills them. You need to kill Ethel first. The point of knocking out the Masks is to stop them turning up in the Ethel fight, but it also means you can "save them" from Ethel's control on them. You can just kill them, but in the second Ethel fight if you want to save Captain Grisly, you need to knock her out.

Come back to the Mermaid later i.e. have a long rest or two, and you will see Grisly walking around in her room.

[wei270]

Publicado originalmente por Malaficus Shaikan:

Publicado originalmente por コツメカワウソ:

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. why they give us a knock unconcious option when it doesnt ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ work 75 percent of the time

It works on minsc.
And isobell.
So only characters that you are suppose too i suppose?

it also works on guard that are temporaly hostile to you, if you knock them out you don't get the guard killer debuff.

[Devorlast]

So, after last patch the way to save both the kid and the cap you have to "kill" the mushrooms and then use non lethal from passive tab and melee the hag till 1 HP. At that point the battle stops and you get the choice to cut the kid out, the masked folks and cap become non aggressive as well and you can talk to the cap to get her thanks.
It took me three tries but I managed to get it done.

[SQUARE-SOFT]

Yall need to read carefully
OP DID knock them out with passive non lethal, destroyed the mushrooms, and only killed Ethel
BUT
they are still hostile after you kill her (unlike in act 1)
and dialogue treats them as still dead when unconscious( unlike the quest to save Minsc)
same problem here

[SQUARE-SOFT]

I just figured it out
its brutal but you have to sneak past them then take out all the mushrooms and ethal in one turn before she calls them
odd thing is, the dialogue implies she was in the fight but i havent found a way to keep them from remaining hostile after slaying the hag if they join in
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[MasterKroket]

Yeah this works like trash.
I just tried to save her by knocking em all unconscious (except for the one i threw into a chasm) so she should be fine at one hitpoint (!!)
After a rest she is gone and everyone treats her as dead even though she was just knocked out huh? That is bizarre. Am i missing an entire questline with her now or something? I am not going back. I did grab all the masks i figured it might set em free LOL


Best knock out moment in this game was in the fight with the eagles. I didnt want to kill em so i knocked em out... Little blue jay bird comes flying over and kills em i LOLLED :D

[NaHCO3]

The bug of non lethal attack not working is SO frustrating.

Facing it the second time, along with a same disgusting fight dealing the hag. I didn't expect it still not fixed.

*sigh*

At least this time my last save is not so far far away.

A function that shows in the first three pad of controller UI, when the very occasion for it finally come, yet turn out useless only after many hours in game passed. Hell, how could it be like this...

[SmightySmighter]

Publicado originalmente por コツメカワウソ:

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. why they give us a knock unconcious option when it doesnt ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ work 75 percent of the time

From what I've checked, it works 100% of the time if you use weapon attacks and unarmed attacks, spells and spell melee attacks like smite will not work, for the mask wearing people if you take of the mask it kills then, so you have to knock them out and not loot the mask, most people are knocked out until long rest, when they wake up they will be upset at you and you would need too bribe them for approval

[godlatro]

Worked way is
1. knockout Ethel and kill mushrooms
2. Save Vanra
3. Kill Ethel after save Vanra
4. Captain Grizzly now friendly
5. U may kill other npc or knock them

[Cinemax]

Publicado originalmente por Malaficus Shaikan:

Publicado originalmente por コツメカワウソ:

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. why they give us a knock unconcious option when it doesnt ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ work 75 percent of the time

It works on minsc.
And isobell.
So only characters that you are suppose too i suppose?

Yeah it only works on characters where it is scripted. Oskar too, but not the Captain or the other Ethel victims.

[SQUARE-SOFT]

Publicado originalmente por godlatro:

Worked way is
1. knockout Ethel and kill mushrooms
2. Save Vanra
3. Kill Ethel after save Vanra
4. Captain Grizzly now friendly
5. U may kill other npc or knock them

they were still hostile after i freed Vanra and killed the hag with no dialogue

[SQUARE-SOFT]

Publicado originalmente por SmightySmighter:

Publicado originalmente por コツメカワウソ:

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. why they give us a knock unconcious option when it doesnt ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ work 75 percent of the time

From what I've checked, it works 100% of the time if you use weapon attacks and unarmed attacks, spells and spell melee attacks like smite will not work, for the mask wearing people if you take of the mask it kills then, so you have to knock them out and not loot the mask, most people are knocked out until long rest, when they wake up they will be upset at you and you would need too bribe them for approval

arrows seem to kill even when using non lethal dmg
and also certain weapon skills that cause infliction or add elemental dmg

[Dustoned]

I have hope that Larian will fix the non-lethal issues, because it felt really clean to save them this way and then I find out they are all considered dead

[Goilveig]

I didn't have much problem. I took out the mushrooms and focused Ethel down using nonlethal damage. I just ignored all the masked people entirely. Saved the kid, and the captain is free. The other masked people are too far gone, they just ask for Auntie Ethel.

[BadluckLu]

The game counts it as death, even with the passive on, If your attacks have anything like poison, fire, etc. They'll jump up back up to one hp after dropping to negative. No modifers cause it to only hit 1.