Stuck on Ketheric Thorm

[TheBioMan]

I'm at the fight at the top of Moonrise tower but I don't see how this fight is even remotely possible for me to beat.

I have no allies because I killed the Nightsong and I'm up against against:
- Ketheric Thorm
- 8 of those skeleton dudes
- Giant spider dude
- Bone dogo
- and that priestess who just summons more skeletons

My party consists of:
- My rouge
- SHADOWHEART
- GALE
- MINTHARA

What am I supposed to do here? I can't even barley survive the first 3 turns. Nothing up to this point in the game has even come close to being this difficult.

[.Master Jiren, The Strongest]

Originally posted by Stinker666:

Man this ♥♥♥♥ isn't challanging anymore.... it's just stupid and retarded. Unfair and crappy game design at this point.

I kill Thorm in the mind flayer colony, and again barely surive, only to have f*cking Myrkul show up......... how the ♥♥♥♥ am I supposed to win? I'm already basically dead from the previous fight.

I have no potions anymore, nothing, all my spells are used up.

Can't level anymore, can't buy anymore stuff, have no alchemy ingedients...

And if party members die, I don't have anough revive scrolls......

At least let me f*cking replenisch between the 2 fights

idk man. i didnt think this fight was that difficult. i thought balnazzar was impossible though. Balnazzar starts off by killing gale turn 1 then a giant skeleton uses shove and kills my main character. leaving just 2 characters left to try and take down everything balnazzar has.

but ketheric was easy. i just sent my main at him and 1v1'd him. he hits hard but only if he hits, AC 30 took care of that (My build was an AC 25 sorcerer with the shield spell that spams fireball and fire wall). i used shadowheart to spam mass healing word which gives everyone blade ward for 2 turns and bless until you're out of spell slots. I let Karlach go through the right side zombies and I sent Gale up the left side and I managed to kill Ketheric by myself before the rest were done with normal zombies lol.

Basically I used a quickened hold person on Ketheric and then melee'd him to death (high strength sorcerer build)

The second fight was a little harder but still pretty easy. Shadowheart resurrecting my entire part as a bonus action was a nice touch, and then using wall of fire on mykul along with cloud of daggers because he can't move so all he can do is this there and suck.

this game is so weird. the hardest boss fights are actually the easiest fights in the game. The fights that were hard are the ones where the AI can shove you off a cliff.

Honestly I think I died to Minthara like 2 or 3 times but I went through all of ketheric no problem. I was like level 7.

if you're struggling, take some time between combats to give your team mates healing potions and oils. i never did, but I always wanted to, i just didnt want to take the time to do it. but if you make sure your party has elixirs, healing potions, and oils, you'll be a lot stronger for it. This is one of those fights you dont have to worry about holding back.

also drink a haste potion or a invulnerability potion. might as well. you'll have plenty and this is supposed to be a hard fight so might as well use your good potions right?


I would try to give more helpful tips but since i dont know why you're struggling i cant really say what you should do differently. its mainly just down to your build. For me I made sure everyone had over 20 AC because otherwise they would just constantly die and need to be healed every turn, I find with an AC of 30 the enemy AI has a harder time killing me.

[SoloQ]

Leveling is never really going to solve the problem of a fight being too difficult. You get 5 HP. You need to out think the fight and not just brute force it. Try to pick off enemies that you can that won't initiate the bigger fights. Set up an ambush if you can. Utilize your CC more effectively.

[Strez]

Originally posted by Stinker666:

Man this ♥♥♥♥ isn't challanging anymore.... it's just stupid and retarded. Unfair and crappy game design at this point.

I kill Thorm in the mind flayer colony, and again barely surive, only to have f*cking Myrkul show up......... how the ♥♥♥♥ am I supposed to win? I'm already basically dead from the previous fight.

I have no potions anymore, nothing, all my spells are used up.

Can't level anymore, can't buy anymore stuff, have no alchemy ingedients...

And if party members die, I don't have anough revive scrolls......

At least let me f*cking replenisch between the 2 fights

You get a free long rest from the those blue mindflayer restoration machines(just like on the ship in the introduction), so if you can't beat Thorm and the Avatar of Myrkul with a full long rested party, idk what to tell you. Actual skill issue at that level.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Sounds like he's a real Thorm in your side, perhaps you need to mix some hops with your barley?

AoE is your friend...

[TheBioMan]

Originally posted by Stinker666:

Man this ♥♥♥♥ isn't challanging anymore.... it's just stupid and retarded. Unfair and crappy game design at this point.

I kill Thorm in the mind flayer colony, and again barely surive, only to have f*cking Myrkul show up......... how the ♥♥♥♥ am I supposed to win? I'm already basically dead from the previous fight.

I have no potions anymore, nothing, all my spells are used up.

Can't level anymore, can't buy anymore stuff, have no alchemy ingedients...

And if party members die, I don't have anough revive scrolls......

At least let me f*cking replenisch between the 2 fights

Myrkul was pretty easy for me. I'm not sure if it's because I cast wall of fire across his pit or if it was because I have a shortsword that inflicts blind with each hit, but Myrkul just sat there for 5 turns doing nothing.

[Fenny]

i dont see why everyone has a problem with this fight yall over think it too much
step 1. get a useless hireling with lots of strength
step 2. load up inventory with smokepowder barrels
step 3. have hireling run straight for ketheric and drop all the barrels next to him
step 4.BOOM
and congratulations you've skipped the entire first half of the fight repeat in second half for similar results guaranteed to work on all bosses.... except that metal ♥♥♥♥ in the forge

[LArc7thHeaven]

Also some advice is there's the shar sanctuary in the middle of the shadow town, use it before you fight because each statue give +5 buff to wisdom, intel, and charisma until long rest.

[Alaril]

You kinda deserved it for rushing and using a rogue

[Alaril]

Originally posted by Stinker666:

Man this ♥♥♥♥ isn't challanging anymore.... it's just stupid and retarded. Unfair and crappy game design at this point.

I kill Thorm in the mind flayer colony, and again barely surive, only to have f*cking Myrkul show up......... how the ♥♥♥♥ am I supposed to win? I'm already basically dead from the previous fight.

I have no potions anymore, nothing, all my spells are used up.

Can't level anymore, can't buy anymore stuff, have no alchemy ingedients...

And if party members die, I don't have anough revive scrolls......

At least let me f*cking replenisch between the 2 fights

Then why did one shot Myrkul?
This game is the easiest around fr

[Noobnoob]

Even with all the advice, don't beat yourself up to bad, this fight is pure cheese on the parts of the developers, who apparently only know how to make battles difficult by going outside the table top ruleset and creating their own home brew enemies. Sort of like newbie dungeon masters who cheat when the players figure out all their tricks.