Warrior can attack 12 times in one round

[Eric]

If a warrior got 11 lv and takes the potion of speed, that means she has 3 actions in one round by using action surge. She can attack 4 times with one action which make she can attack 12 times in one round and she can make 30 damage on average which means she can take a maximum of 30 * 12 = 360 damage. This setting ruined the strategic aspect of the game.

[John Adams]

Originally posted by Eric:

This setting ruined the strategic aspect of the game.

This right here is what we grown ups call "a personal opinion". You meant to finish with "...for me, ruined it for me" I am sure.

Personally, after having my arse handed to me for weeks in EA, then getting stomped on by 20 MISSES in a row for 40 hours of game play until I hit level 5 or so... you bet I am taking 12 attacks in a row as raging revenge against the dice that oppressed me early on.

[pirate135246]

lvl 11 is basically the end of the game, you should feel strong. Although I do agree that speed pots and haste are too strong, you are not supposed to be able to cast attacks or spells with the extra action according to 5e and it looks like Larian either missed that or underestimated the power of having extra actions even with the pots only lasting 3 turns with the lethargic debuff after

[Eric]

Originally posted by Raahvin:

Originally posted by Eric:

This setting ruined the strategic aspect of the game.

This right here is what we grown ups call "a personal opinion". You meant to finish with "...for me, ruined it for me" I am sure.

Personally, after having my arse handed to me for weeks in EA, then getting stomped on by 20 MISSES in a row for 40 hours of game play until I hit level 5 or so... you bet I am taking 12 attacks in a row as raging revenge against the dice that oppressed me early on.

so I take the barbaric with wolf heart and improve my priest's initial + 5 which means she can cast the spell to improve +2 Attack roll before my worrier turn. when you all did that, you will find the MISSES are acceptable and the damage warrior did is up to 60% of the group did. she can kill almost any boss in one turn with full state

[Call Sign: Raven]

Let me guess:

Why is Larian FORCING me to use a potion of speed?! It's so GAME BREAKING.

Just don't use the potion lmfao

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Larian doesn't care about combat balance at all, they've made this utterly clear over the last three years.

BG3 is a storybook/movie.

[Vash The Stampede]

The hasted action from potion of speed should only be able to be used to either move or make a single attack. A fighter using action surge at lvl 11 should make 6 attacks, the hasted action should not apply to action surge. The total should be 7 in this case. Is it confirmed that it is more than that?

[StoriesBonesTell]

yeah but you're a useless martial. One of my spells will out do your 12 attacks. Just be a good boy, hold your little shield and stand next to the enemy

[Kage]

Yea martials > casters so hard in this. My 12 paladin can do 300+ dmg in a turn.. wizard can do like 60. Kinda nuts. Rogue(thief)/fighter multiclass comes close though with 4 sneak attacks.

[Lord_WC]

Splash a level of monk for +2 attacks.

[Drake]

Originally posted by StoriesBonesTell:

yeah but you're a useless martial. One of my spells will out do your 12 attacks. Just be a good boy, hold your little shield and stand next to the enemy

I've that meme somewhere. Wizard taunts fighter telling him he's useless... fighter just looses a series of arrows and kills the wizard in one turn....
Fighters are strong. They're dumb but they do deliver in the damage department.

[StoriesBonesTell]

Originally posted by Drake:

Originally posted by StoriesBonesTell:

yeah but you're a useless martial. One of my spells will out do your 12 attacks. Just be a good boy, hold your little shield and stand next to the enemy

I've that meme somewhere. Wizard taunts fighter telling him he's useless... fighter just looses a series of arrows and kills the wizard in one turn....
Fighters are strong. They're dumb but they do deliver in the damage department.

Im sure that comic exists in a world where wizards dont have shield or mage armor

[ACS36]

Don't use haste potions. It's busted mechanic and you'd never have access to that many powerful potions in a regular campaign, except under rare circumstances.

The developers did a terrible job of balancing the game economy and gave the player access to way too many powerful resources.

You don't have to break the game to play. Games all ready easy without doing that. I don't use shove or haste at all in my game. It's a choice to cheese the game or not.

[StoriesBonesTell]

Originally posted by ACS36:

Don't use haste potions. It's busted mechanic and you'd never have access to that many powerful potions in a regular campaign, except under rare circumstances.

The developers did a terrible job of balancing the game economy and gave the player access to way too many powerful resources.

They had to give the players a bunch of busted stuff so the 90% of single digit IQ players can still beat the game. Have you seen how many threads we have of people who cant even figure out how to hit enemies? Theres one up right now saying the witch is IMPOSSIBLE

[Drake]

Originally posted by StoriesBonesTell:

Originally posted by Drake:

I've that meme somewhere. Wizard taunts fighter telling him he's useless... fighter just looses a series of arrows and kills the wizard in one turn....
Fighters are strong. They're dumb but they do deliver in the damage department.

Im sure that comic exists in a world where wizards dont have shield or mage armor

Shield and mage armour never stopped a mid level fighter. You might have better chance if that was mirror image or better blindness.

[Batailleuse]

Originally posted by Eric:

If a warrior got 11 lv and takes the potion of speed, that means she has 3 actions in one round by using action surge. She can attack 4 times with one action which make she can attack 12 times in one round and she can make 30 damage on average which means she can take a maximum of 30 * 12 = 360 damage. This setting ruined the strategic aspect of the game.

i give you one better.

Rogue 2 (the one with 2 bonus action)
Gloom stalker 8
Fighter 2

Dual wield crossbows.

20dex
dip in poison pre fight (like a 1d10 poison)
dip in fire if you do not already have fire damage (1d4 fire)
make sure you have morning lord glory (1d4 radiant)
Use necrotic gloves (+1d4 necro)
ideally one or both your xbow also have +1d4 something.
use speed potion (2 actions)
use a bloodlust elixir (refresh 1 action per kill per round)
use perma advantage on attack ring
and you have picked the sharpsooter perk (+10 base damage

Engage with sneak attack = 2d6+5+3d4+1d10+10= 21-49
then the second attack of that action = 1d6+5+3d4 = 19-33
get the free attack from gloomstalker = 19-33.
now that was only first attack ... now second attack rounds totals 38-66
and no ... it's not over, now you also have 2 bonus action for your off hand crossbow, so another 38-66 damage.

but you know the best, you can also use elemental arrows on TOP of that damage (once per full action) want to know the best one ? multi target arrow, it will hit 3 more target for 50% damage.

now you just did about what ... 135-247, 50% of that on 3 other target. so let's say 337-617


and you still get one action back after kill.

not counting crits... but with the proper gear they do happen a lot.

also not to be mean but you get less than 10 total potion of speed in the whole game, so ... use them sparingly. who knows you might need them in some timed missions... or some end game boss.

to be fair, i 1 turned several boss of the act 3.... without using any consumable at all. just the base stuff i had on my team and their skills.

but if you want to go for the stupidest burst possible single target, you can't beat the build i mentioned