I keep killing Laezel

[Nutty One]

The first time was when she insulted my character when Laezel was stuck in a cage, so i let the tieflings kill her.
The second game, Laezel picked a fight with Shadowheart and lost, i didn't stop the fight. Laezel died.

I dont feel any remorse for Laezel, she even over reacted and was going to murder the entire party one time. Why is she such a bad character?

[(ง ͡ʘ ͜ʖ ͡ʘ)งBonesMcSpook]

What is character development?
If you leave her behind she never has a chance to change dumbo. The entirety of the game does not play out in act 1.

[Xenomorph Kitty]

Originally posted by (ง ͡ʘ ͜ʖ ͡ʘ)งBonesMcSpook:

What is character development?
If you leave her behind she never has a chance to change dumbo. The entirety of the game does not play out in act 1.

Pretty much this. Lae'zel comes from a society that is solely militaristic, zealous and on an endless quest to hunt down and end Mind flayers.

From birth they are trained to fight. Because their society had to overcome and evolve to be this way as they used to be slaves to the Illithids.

She's blunt, direct and solely focused on the task at hand. She dislikes distractions and helping people just for the sake of it. But is fully okay with being deceptive and using intimidation tactics as long as you keep moving forward and don't linger.

She has lots of development, if you let her.

[Estevan Valladares]

No matter how much backstory you put in Laezel, the character is insuferable if you are not into the "snowflake" from a warrior culture. And killing her is always the best option.
What I dont like is that you kill her and her corpse stays in the camp for an eternity.
Larian should patch it up and you could have her buried, cremated, dump in the swamp of the hags, anything, but out of my freaking camp.

[RancidRon]

Originally posted by Nutty One:

The first time was when she insulted my character when Laezel was stuck in a cage, so i let the tieflings kill her.
The second game, Laezel picked a fight with Shadowheart and lost, i didn't stop the fight. Laezel died.

I dont feel any remorse for Laezel, she even over reacted and was going to murder the entire party one time. Why is she such a bad character?

Yea I cant stand her either. I have had similar things goin on with her in my different playthroughs. I cant stand the rogue either. So far I have left him on the road and steaked his heart and just left him in the camp fully ignored. I keep gravitating to wyll Karlach and Shadowheart for me group despite different playthroughs. Hell I even made Wyll a multi class rogue just to have a lock pick.

[Hollow-Enigma]

I found both Lae'zel and Astarion engaging exactly because they seem to lean so much towards evil. Made it all the more engaging throughout. I pursued Lae'zel as a romance just to see where it would go with me playing as a generally heroic type. And i had Astarion as another member. I can say that every character has incredible potential for growth, for good or bad. I'd challenge who really dislikes a particular character for leaning too much one way or another to bring them along for a campaign and see how they end up by the end.

[Proper Skux]

I’m the rarest person whose actually playing as Lae so I get to avoid this by playing the ♥♥♥♥♥ myself.

[Chaosolous]

I platonically love Lae'zel. Even if I don't use her. I will on another playthrough probably, maybe even use her as my character. Who knows.

She's got that get ♥♥♥♥ done attitude.

[Drakanoth, One]

Originally posted by Seri:

Originally posted by (ง ͡ʘ ͜ʖ ͡ʘ)งBonesMcSpook:

What is character development?
If you leave her behind she never has a chance to change dumbo. The entirety of the game does not play out in act 1.

Pretty much this. Lae'zel comes from a society that is solely militaristic, zealous and on an endless quest to hunt down and end Mind flayers.

From birth they are trained to fight. Because their society had to overcome and evolve to be this way as they used to be slaves to the Illithids.

She's blunt, direct and solely focused on the task at hand. She dislikes distractions and helping people just for the sake of it. But is fully okay with being deceptive and using intimidation tactics as long as you keep moving forward and don't linger.

She has lots of development, if you let her.

Y'know, this post convinced me to give Lae a chance on romance in my next playthrough. I am currently romancing Shadowheart, and I felt pretty much what you said about Lae with her, so I think its very likely true that Lae also has a nice development. Shadow on the start comes off a bit arrogant, and you can't even be sure if you can trust her because she keeps a lot in the dark, but once she understands she can let her guard down around you she changes.

[6h0$t942]

The githyanki serve the lich queen. They're a gang of murderous psionics from Limbo, and their ruler eats anyone who gets to level ~12-14.

Modern fanfic D&D (5e..) is afraid of this fact, but many of the races in forgotten realms are simply evil by nature. Drizzt do urden is supposed to be nearly unique, 98% of the drow are a murderous matriarchal theocracy who sacrifice their enemies to Lolth on bloody altars.
99.99% of orcs are just wild savages. Or any goblinoid.
And tieflings, while not inherently evil, are constantly beset by the urges of their fiendish blood. or they are SUPPOSED to be.

[jhughes]

Originally posted by Nutty One:

The first time was when she insulted my character when Laezel was stuck in a cage, so i let the tieflings kill her.
The second game, Laezel picked a fight with Shadowheart and lost, i didn't stop the fight. Laezel died.

I dont feel any remorse for Laezel, she even over reacted and was going to murder the entire party one time. Why is she such a bad character?

If Lae'zel and Shadowheart fight, then you are not a good enough leader.

Lae'zel can (and does) change after visiting the Creche. It says more about your party leadership skills and less about Lae'zel (or any of the other companions) if they are routinely fighting and/or killing themselves.

[hypehype]

I have never gotten the text to kill Lae, maybe be I agree with most of the stuff she says.

[Xenomorph Kitty]

Originally posted by Draka 1000:

Originally posted by Seri:

Pretty much this. Lae'zel comes from a society that is solely militaristic, zealous and on an endless quest to hunt down and end Mind flayers.

From birth they are trained to fight. Because their society had to overcome and evolve to be this way as they used to be slaves to the Illithids.

She's blunt, direct and solely focused on the task at hand. She dislikes distractions and helping people just for the sake of it. But is fully okay with being deceptive and using intimidation tactics as long as you keep moving forward and don't linger.

She has lots of development, if you let her.

Y'know, this post convinced me to give Lae a chance on romance in my next playthrough. I am currently romancing Shadowheart, and I felt pretty much what you said about Lae with her, so I think its very likely true that Lae also has a nice development. Shadow on the start comes off a bit arrogant, and you can't even be sure if you can trust her because she keeps a lot in the dark, but once she understands she can let her guard down around you she changes.

I romanced her in my first run through. It was actually very good development she had which I obviously wont spoil for you as you wish to see it for yourself. Unless you wish me to of course.

But there is a definite change from Nautiloid Lae'zel, and act 3 Lae'zel. Obviously, it still falls down to your choices throughout the story that involves her. They do play a role.

[DemonicSquid]

Originally posted by ⓀⒾⓦⒾ‰:

and she likes the way i smell

She drained you too huh?

[MoSo]

Seems like you're a bit on the sensitive side of things lol

[ChaosKhan]

Originally posted by Nutty One:

The first time was when she insulted my character when Laezel was stuck in a cage, so i let the tieflings kill her.
The second game, Laezel picked a fight with Shadowheart and lost, i didn't stop the fight. Laezel died.

I dont feel any remorse for Laezel, she even over reacted and was going to murder the entire party one time. Why is she such a bad character?

It's great, that you are enjoying being evil in the game, but plz don't try to do the same in RL. You'll go to jail very quickly...

She isn't a bad character, your morales are just utterly screwed.

Also, she doesn't lose to Shadowheart. Shadowheart literally ambushes Laezel in her sleep.