I can see why the weirdos are upset with Gale

[cybermastah]

Gale's kind of a loser and acts like a neckbeard; my guess is the weirdos who are upset with him being bi see themselves in him but don't want to visualize themselves in the LGBT community. He really is a lot like those terminally online losers, just also bi.

Seriously, the way Gale talks he'd get himself decked in a bar. I thought perhaps he'd actually be cool what with everyone wanting a bromance with the guy, but he talks like a theater school reject. Give him a fedora and I'd seriously reconsider not just walking away with his severed hand (not that you'd see the fedora before deciding whether or not to just close the portal).

Though he's not the only one, I would have given Astarion a beatdown if that option had been present when I met him. Can't these two guys talk like normal people who've actually been around other people (and I don't mean the other losers they meet on messageboards)?

Lae'zal and Shadowheart haven't acted all that weird so far (aside from Shadowheart's name being 'Shadowheart'), but Astarion and Gale both act like the kind of losers who don't get a second invite to play DnD.

[Norbac]

Why are you so angry lmao.

[not harvey]

Gale couldn't roll less than a 20 on a charisma check if he tried.

[not harvey]

You just seem like a very angry person.

You came here to write a 4 paragraph expose on how you think Gale deserves to be decked, how you'd cut off his hands, and how you want to beat up Asterion.

Are you ok dude?

[-=Cloud Windfoot Omega=-]

Cant go 5 seconds without making dumb ass assumptions can you huh op?

[Shiny Rayquaza]

I guess your still hurt you never got a second invite after the DM heard about your super edgy character after the session zero? Its ok bud, this is a safe space. Let out all your anger.

[Volk]

I mean it could be that some people don't want their own character to be gay or bi. But this seems to go deeper then that for you. Other people's play styles on their sexuality shouldn't make you this triggered

[Edelgris]

Bruh, not everyone hangs out Boston jock dives. They wouldn't hang out where you hang out.

[GM Morgan]

I kinda figured Gale was a Nice Guy TM. The sort of ‘insert minimum kindness, receive sex’ goober who thinks a girl smiling means she’s trying manipulate you and that the Friend Zone is a Dante’s Purgatory. It’s a character flaw. B/c only crazy people become adventurers, all your companions are not well adjusted people. The Gith is probably the closest to sane in that she’s got a day job and would rather die than let the thing in her head do its thing.

[Ubik Valis]

Originally posted by cybermastah:

Gale's kind of a loser and acts like a neckbeard; my guess is the weirdos who are upset with him being bi see themselves in him but don't want to visualize themselves in the LGBT community. He really is a lot like those terminally online losers, just also bi.

Vot ze fog arrr yoo tolkien aboot?

Originally posted by cybermastah:

Seriously, the way Gale talks he'd get himself d!cked in a bar.

Oh my.

[cybermastah]

Uh oh, I've upset the other theater school rejects.

Originally posted by GM Morgan:

I kinda figured Gale was a Nice Guy TM. The sort of ‘insert minimum kindness, receive sex’ goober who thinks a girl smiling means she’s trying manipulate you and that the Friend Zone is a Dante’s Purgatory. It’s a character flaw. B/c only crazy people become adventurers, all your companions are not well adjusted people. The Gith is probably the closest to sane in that she’s got a day job and would rather die than let the thing in her head do its thing.

Honestly your companions in most of the Mass effect games, along with planescape torment, and the people you meet in the Diablo series all talk like normal people; Gale and Astarion both talk like they're trying to get hired for an amateur production of a Shakespearean play.

[Spades]

"Can't these two guys talk like normal people who've actually been around other people"

Well, technically speaking..... the vampire hasn't been around people for how long? hasn't he been a tortured thrall for like 200 years or something, with the only interaction being a f'ed up slave master with a twisted mind?

as for Gale, backstory wise..... kinda seems like you'd grow a bit of an ego considering such lmao

[GM Morgan]

Originally posted by cybermastah:

Uh oh, I've upset the other theater school rejects.

Originally posted by GM Morgan:

I kinda figured Gale was a Nice Guy TM. The sort of ‘insert minimum kindness, receive sex’ goober who thinks a girl smiling means she’s trying manipulate you and that the Friend Zone is a Dante’s Purgatory. It’s a character flaw. B/c only crazy people become adventurers, all your companions are not well adjusted people. The Gith is probably the closest to sane in that she’s got a day job and would rather die than let the thing in her head do its thing.

Honestly your companions in most of the Mass effect games, along with planescape torment, and the people you meet in the Diablo series all talk like normal people; Gale and Astarion both talk like they're trying to get hired for an amateur production of a Shakespearean play.

I’ll agree with you on Mass Effect, but sci-fi is a different bag. Planescape has some pretty out there companions. I’ve never cared for Diablo, tbh. I either want a slower paced RPG or a full-on bullet hell.

And I will agree that the dialog in this came is not always peak writing. Gale is (to me) the worst offender lol.

[Spaceman_84]

I feel like Gale should have been voiced by Matt Berry. particularly how he portrays Lazlo in WWDITS.

[cybermastah]

Originally posted by Spades:

"Can't these two guys talk like normal people who've actually been around other people"

Well, technically speaking..... the vampire hasn't been around people for how long? hasn't he been a tortured thrall for like 200 years or something, with the only interaction being a f'ed up slave master with a twisted mind?

as for Gale, backstory wise..... kinda seems like you'd grow a bit of an ego considering such lmao

For Gale it's less the ego and more the script; I feel like his presentation could've been far better. I don't mind the ego at all, it's that his dialogue feels very bizarre like he's never carried a conversation for more than a few minutes at a time; if he'd been an actor in the storyline the bizarre and hammy nature of his dialogue would fit, but for comedy purposes.

As for Astarion I'll try and understand his situation better, but I still feel like he carries the same hammy acting, and it's the script that's the issue. I've seen characters in similar predicaments but they were handled a lot better than this.

Originally posted by GM Morgan:

I’ll agree with you on Mass Effect, but sci-fi is a different bag. Planescape has some pretty out there companions. I’ve never cared for Diablo, tbh. I either want a slower paced RPG or a full-on bullet hell.

And I will agree that the dialog in this came is not always peak writing. Gale is (to me) the worst offender lol.

Planescape does have very odd characters (the guy who's always on fire, the dark knight you meet, the floating skull, etc.), but their dialogue never feels hammy. Here the dialogue needs work and indeed, Gale's is the worst.

Originally posted by Spaceman_84:

I feel like Gale should have been voiced by Matt Berry. particularly how he portrays Lazlo in WWDITS.

Oh God yeeees; I just looked up Matt Berry (as I don't know him by name) and that guy would've been awesome. Bring that guy in and alter the dialogue for comedy and Gale would've been my favorite character.

[Jeysie]

I genuinely like how incredibly extra Gale is; it's hilarious. (But I have a list of fave characters across fandoms that can be described as "extra" and/or "drama queen" so I think my sense of humor just has a type.)

As for Astarion, I'm more bothered by him being a cold-hearted jerkass than I am by his mannerisms. He's a noble, they all talk like that.