Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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Enola Gay Aug 11, 2023 @ 1:00am
why can't sorcerer's learn spells from scrolls?
They use the same spells as wizards can, but can't learn new spells from scrolls? Seems like an odd limitation.
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VoiD Aug 11, 2023 @ 1:03am 
Sorcs are not scholars, They don't use intelligence, and they don't study spells to learn them, their spells come from their nature, their bloodline, their ancestry, they have magic within them and they learn by instinct.

So they can do funky stuff like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--JG19aAfQo

But they can't have a magical encyclopedia of every spell in the world to chose from, like wizzards can.
FluffyPotato Aug 11, 2023 @ 1:04am 
Lore reasons. Basically wizards learn spells by study while sorcerers just do magic by intuition. Scrolls have instructions on how to cast a spell but a sorcerer casts it by feel and not instruction so it's useless.
ChaosKhan Aug 11, 2023 @ 1:04am 
Originally posted by Enola Gay:
They use the same spells as wizards can, but can't learn new spells from scrolls? Seems like an odd limitation.

Because the source of their spellcasting is different. Sorcerers simply "wish" spells into being, while Wizards use formulas and a "scientific" approach to magic. Basically, it's like taking a genious guittarist who learned playing by himself and never learned anything beyond that and giving him a music sheet.
Teddy Aug 11, 2023 @ 1:04am 
Originally posted by Enola Gay:
They use the same spells as wizards can, but can't learn new spells from scrolls? Seems like an odd limitation.
Wizards are the geeky nerdy kids on the block, they are extremely intelligent, but completely talentless. They use their intelligence to remember how to cast magic.

Sorceress is completely natural spell caster, not so intelligent. They use charisma to cast magic, or at least to add to their damage modifier, but in 3.5 I believe there was a subclass that could use wisdom iirc, 5e is very limited in this regard.
Membi Aug 11, 2023 @ 1:23am 
Originally posted by FluffyPotato:
Lore reasons. Basically wizards learn spells by study while sorcerers just do magic by intuition. Scrolls have instructions on how to cast a spell but a sorcerer casts it by feel and not instruction so it's useless.

And game mechanic reasons as well. If sorcs were able to scribe scrolls as wizards, there would be fewer reasons to play wizards. To make it fair they would then have to give meta magic to wizards and then honestly there would be no difference between the classes
Sanenomore Aug 30, 2023 @ 1:16pm 
Just FYI... there is a mod for that. You can also take 1 level of Wizard and keep 11 in Sorcerer and learn every arcane scroll in the game. Unfortunately atm it appears all scrolls use INT when being cast and of course if you learn them as a Wizard they will be INT based as well. There are items to boost INT though.
Last edited by Sanenomore; Aug 30, 2023 @ 1:18pm
Lord Adorable Aug 30, 2023 @ 1:16pm 
Because unlike WIzards they're not smartass eggheads.
Muffanzo Aug 30, 2023 @ 1:21pm 
sorcs are the gifted chad casters who don't study and just know it.
wizards are the ones who study, being able to switch which spells they have ready
Warlocks asked some shady person in a back alley to help them and they said yes.
Druids asked nature for help and got it
bards played a song and some how it happened.
wild magic barbarians got really mad and magic happened.
clerics prayed for it and magic happened.
FoxFox Aug 30, 2023 @ 1:22pm 
Sorcerers are naturals, wizards use their brains.
アンジェル Aug 30, 2023 @ 1:23pm 
That is why they use and need charisma. To convince the universe of their wild magic.
Glyph Aug 30, 2023 @ 1:24pm 
What are they going to transcribe them to buddy? Tattoos on their body (that's a class from a different system)?
Woldy Aug 30, 2023 @ 1:26pm 
Originally posted by Enola Gay:
They use the same spells as wizards can, but can't learn new spells from scrolls? Seems like an odd limitation.
Sorcerers don't "learn" spells. they Naturally get the ability to do it as it comes straight from their bloodline.

A wizard reads a book to learn spells. A sorcerer gets it but strengthening their body. both physically and mentally.
valky Aug 30, 2023 @ 1:26pm 
in older editions, thy could whack-a-mole you with tons of fireballs, but that got down-tuned quite a bit, so they are given heritages of dragons.
That come with a lot of advantages on their own...

If memory serves right, you could hurl 10 fireballs out of your mind, because you had memorized it and spent all slots in doing so. now it is limited to level restriction and upscaling....
Still a very strong class, if you know what to pick.... and you can replenish casting slots on the get-go....
(in solasta the sorc is uber-strong, if you know what to pick - guess it is the same in BG3, but some spells feel downtuned and wishy-washy)

edit: slight grammar and I think it's 3.5E where the sorc was mayhem...litterally!
5E is quite fun on the other hand...pick the things to your liking (and don't listen to 'best spell and such' comments)
Crowdcontrol >>>>>>>> and there is fireball ^^
Last edited by valky; Aug 30, 2023 @ 1:34pm
アンジェル Aug 30, 2023 @ 1:27pm 
There is such a wonderful scene with Karlach, when you come across sussur blooms.
Woldy Aug 30, 2023 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by アンジェル:
There is such a wonderful scene with Karlach, when you come across sussur blooms.
what happens?
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Date Posted: Aug 11, 2023 @ 1:00am
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