Why are the tieflings inexplicably turning against me while defending the Grove (Spoilers)

[KocLobster]

I keep reloading, trying to determine why all of their portraits turn from green to red and they become enemies in the middle of defending the Grove. There's no obvious reason. I sure as hell never attacked any of them.

The only possible explanation I can muster is that a couple turns previous I summoned Lump and his two buddies (the ogres) with Lump's War Horn. The ogres are only attacking the goblins, but the aggroing of the tieflings against me seems to happen at the start of Lump's turn?

Is this just a bug and I have to reload waaay back before I even used the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ horn? Anyone else experienced jankiness with using the horn or the Grove fight?

[KocLobster]

By all means, lets instead have the forums flood with hate rather than respond to a genuine request for help lol

[Ronoc Totenmeer]

did you reload the fight at all during this time?

[Ronoc Totenmeer]

Ive seen bugs like this happen when i reloaded mid fight before, but this doesnt sound like what im thinking of

[Ronoc Totenmeer]

Its possible that the tieflings and the ogres are coded to be hostile to one another regardless of if you call them with the horn, though why that would be im not sure.

[GuliBulli]

I can confirm the Ogres cause Neutral Camps or Friendly Camps against you. The Ogres are part of the Goblin, if not even more Evil. You managed to convince some baddies to "work for you", you summon them in a camp of good people that have had their previous friends killed and eaten by those type of Goblins / Ogres - their thought process is something like "Ayo wtf why is our so called Hero summoning these evil guys, something aint right here" and just start swinging.

You'll notice the Camp has mostly Yellow Marks on the mini map or when you hold your mouse over the people they are yellow, which means neutral to you. Same goes for the Ogres, neutral to you, but to each others they are red. That helps knowing when you can summon them.

[KocLobster]

Originally posted by Ronoc Totenmeer:

did you reload the fight at all during this time?

Many times.


I reloaded to right before I summoned Lump and his two ogre buddies. Confirmed that they were indeed the issue. Whats weird is that they don't aggro your friends onto you until a while after you summon them. Boooo