Drow Paladin - Issues with the lore

[Billybob]

So i've always rolled Paladins in these sorts of games, but i'm struggling slightly given the (limited) lore I know about Loth Sworn Drows.

How could one feasibly ever be a Paladin? I'm not talking about "just do what you want bro" either, I mean within the context of the lore. It seems ridiculously nonsensical to me.

So i'm probably gonna roll a Seldarine in that regard just to make it make sense for me personally unless someone can convince me? I really hate how they tied this to the subrace when it should be something entirely different (why are cult like backgrounds tied to your direct race?)

Another problem i'm having currently, the body types. Body type 2 (male) makes the most sense for Drows because to my understanding, they're all manlets (all elves are on the shorter side no?). But ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, why is the run/walk animation so... Effeminate. Is there a walk animation I didn't see or something?

Looks like a Type 4 Seldarine Drow is gonna be my pick (Vengeance Paladin, considering oath breaking but not sure yet). So my question is, Drow Paladin bros, what did you run and did you have any rationales besides "sounded cool gigachad.jpeg"?

[Zyco]

Yeah. all Lore stuff went out the window years ago. . now Pallies and Clerics can use bladed weapons and arrows and for me thats it

[Wormwood]

To be honest, I ran with my Drow (body shape 4) as a paladin as well, but I chose Ancients just so I could go Oathbreaker asap.
Because an oathbreaker makes most sense to me in a Roleplay kind of way.
I am unsure if there are Proper Drow Paladins, but I suppose even Lolth would have a few.

[Midnight Meows]

Just do what you want bro, it's your game.

The majority of drow are basically a cult of Lolth. Paladin wouldn't work though, obviously. You would need some kind of anti-paladin.

Thing is, I haven't checked the classes for this option. Maybe Larian made it, maybe they didn't and they just went with "Paladin" and then something like Vengeance or Oathbreaker for eEeeEEEEeveel paladins. If so, you'll just have to handwave it as the devs bundling everything under the same label.

edit:

annnnd that's exactly what they did. Oof. That's as bad as bundling Wizard and Sorc under a single label.

Welp, OP, I don't know what to say. Just kind of handwave the "paladin" label away.

[Billybob]

Originally posted by Wormwood:

To be honest, I ran with my Drow (body shape 4) as a paladin as well, but I chose Ancients just so I could go Oathbreaker asap.
Because an oathbreaker makes most sense to me in a Roleplay kind of way.
I am unsure if there are Proper Drow Paladins, but I suppose even Lolth would have a few.

Oh there are definitely Drow Paladins, any non Lolth Sworn Paladin for example makes total sense within the world.

I just hate how they tied Lolth Sworn and Seldarine behind races, it would be like having a human race with the sub race being "Democrat" or "Republican" when the human you have in mind is like, European or something. Lmao.

The body types are disappointing though. Having to rock a muscle bound Drow isn't exactly what I picture when I "think" drow but with the new ruleset, I don't even think Drows are tied to the manlet image anymore anyway. Just that damn walking animation on body type 2, literally runs like a girl

[IRON FIST SOUND DOLPHIN]

Originally posted by Zyco:

Yeah. all Lore stuff went out the window years ago. . now Pallies and Clerics can use bladed weapons and arrows and for me thats it

Did they used to not have hands?

[Twyt]

why not? You didn't actually make any arguments to say why it doesn't make sense. I would say that the only paladin that doesn't really make sense for the loth-sworn is devotion, but others are totally fine

[Granatapfel]

My dude, even in D&D 3.5 (20 years ago) there were "Paladins of Tyranny". Paladin = Super devouted guy with a big stick and some magic.

And if you want to be Lolth sworn and good, just roleplay a Paladin of Eilistraee. There is even an item for just that in the Underdark.

[Midnight Meows]

Originally posted by Twyt:

why not? You didn't actually make any arguments to say why it doesn't make sense. I would say that the only paladin that doesn't really make sense for the loth-sworn is devotion, but others are totally fine

Ah, yes, how silly of the OP to not explain why it doesn't make sense for a Lolth-sworn Drow to fight against evil and to right the wrongs in the world.

[Billybob]

Originally posted by Twyt:

why not? You didn't actually make any arguments to say why it doesn't make sense. I would say that the only paladin that doesn't really make sense for the loth-sworn is devotion, but others are totally fine

The argument is literally "loth-Sworn". Lmfao.

Out of the Oaths in the game, which one do you think fits towards being devoted towards one of the most sadistic entities in the entire lore?

[s_greyjoy]

what if a drow grew up lolth sworn but ended up leaving the underdark and changing over time? its possible.

[Clonedpickle]

Originally posted by Rye:

Just do what you want bro, it's your game.

The majority of drow are basically a cult of Lolth. Paladin wouldn't work though, obviously. You would need some kind of anti-paladin.

Thing is, I haven't checked the classes for this option. Maybe Larian made it, maybe they didn't and they just went with "Paladin" and then something like Vengeance or Oathbreaker for eEeeEEEEeveel paladins. If so, you'll just have to handwave it as the devs bundling everything under the same label.

edit:

annnnd that's exactly what they did. Oof. That's as bad as bundling Wizard and Sorc under a single label.

Welp, OP, I don't know what to say. Just kind of handwave the "paladin" label away.

Vengeance paladins are not remotely evil. Their ways is just the end justifies the means and show no mercy to evil.

A Oathbreaker is the one that's evil as you give up the light in favor of dark magics, which can fit somewhat to Lolth-sworn

[Twyt]

Originally posted by Billybob:

Originally posted by Twyt:

why not? You didn't actually make any arguments to say why it doesn't make sense. I would say that the only paladin that doesn't really make sense for the loth-sworn is devotion, but others are totally fine

The argument is literally "loth-Sworn". Lmfao.

Out of the Oaths in the game, which one do you think fits towards being devoted towards one of the most sadistic entities in the entire lore?

2 out of 4 tbh, which is pretty lacking considering the oathbreaker cannot be chosen at the start. I agree with that, it is sad that there no oaths that are more flexible in terms of good and evil alignment

[Smashbound]

I'm rolling a drow paladin, having a good time. It's great that my drow and paladin convo choices are usually opposites.

[chrstnmonks]

You can be a paladin but just have different virtures than others. Virtures are different given the soceity. Like in Drow soceity ambition and ruthlessness are virtures where as compassion and kindness are not

[Billybob]

Originally posted by guizhang:

what if a drow grew up lolth sworn but ended up leaving the underdark and changing over time? its possible.

That's the issue, the sub race description nor do the dialogue options you get once you pick this option, reflect that.

It's why it's so dumb that they decided to tie what effectively is a background to the sub race.

Originally posted by Clonedpickle:

Originally posted by Rye:

Just do what you want bro, it's your game.

The majority of drow are basically a cult of Lolth. Paladin wouldn't work though, obviously. You would need some kind of anti-paladin.

Thing is, I haven't checked the classes for this option. Maybe Larian made it, maybe they didn't and they just went with "Paladin" and then something like Vengeance or Oathbreaker for eEeeEEEEeveel paladins. If so, you'll just have to handwave it as the devs bundling everything under the same label.

edit:

annnnd that's exactly what they did. Oof. That's as bad as bundling Wizard and Sorc under a single label.

Welp, OP, I don't know what to say. Just kind of handwave the "paladin" label away.

Vengeance paladins are not remotely evil. Their ways is just the end justifies the means and show no mercy to evil.

A Oathbreaker is the one that's evil as you give up the light in favor of dark magics, which can fit somewhat to Lolth-sworn

Oathbreakers aren't evil lmfao.

Originally posted by chrstnmonks:

You can be a paladin but just have different virtures than others. Virtures are different given the soceity. Like in Drow soceity ambition and ruthlessness are virtures where as compassion and kindness are not

Not in BG3 they don't. The 3 Oath choices (barring oathbreaker) are very clear and not one of them line up with the Lolth Sworn Drow