Max...level..is 12 ?

[Jimmy]

No point in the post...just what it says in the title...i'm dissapointed..so sad..

[RamzaBehoulve]

Originally posted by Hasu:

I'm sure we will get an expansion for BG3, that will expand the story and maybe level cap.

They already said it's unlikely they will increase maximum class levels due to the challenges involved.

[Jimmy]

Yes, as i said i understand the powercreep of this game and dnd in general i've been in the dnd gaming scene since the 90's. What i'm saying, is i wanna roleplay from a maggot to a god which i sadly cant. And that made me...sad. So i just shared. Not critisczing a game, devs, dnd or any1 i left out. Also i'm a PoE player, Diablo 1 is the only diablo i'd play.

[Syynx]

Originally posted by RouGhBartL®:

can a dnd nerd tell me what each level means? like is lvl12 a super adventurer or already a god?

A level 12 character in Forgotten Realms is a seasoned adventurer who has gained some renown and respect in the world. They have faced many dangers and challenges, and have acquired some powerful abilities and skills.

Meanwhile, a level 20 character in Forgotten Realms is a legendary hero who can shape the world with their actions and influence. They can face dragons, demons, liches, and even gods without fear. They can cast spells that can alter reality, create or destroy entire realms, or grant wishes. They can also master any weapon, skill, or art that they choose. They are the epitome of their chosen class and have access to the most extraordinary abilities and features.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Syynx:

Originally posted by RouGhBartL®:

can a dnd nerd tell me what each level means? like is lvl12 a super adventurer or already a god?

A level 12 character in Forgotten Realms is a seasoned adventurer who has gained some renown and respect in the world. They have faced many dangers and challenges, and have acquired some powerful abilities and skills.

Meanwhile, a level 20 character in Forgotten Realms is a legendary hero who can shape the world with their actions and influence. They can face dragons, demons, liches, and even gods without fear. They can cast spells that can alter reality, create or destroy entire realms, or grant wishes. They can also master any weapon, skill, or art that they choose. They are the epitome of their chosen class and have access to the most extraordinary abilities and features.

Sounds like some of our companions should've started at level 12, if that's the case.

[Barson]

Originally posted by Jimmy:

Yes, as i said i understand the powercreep of this game and dnd in general i've been in the dnd gaming scene since the 90's. What i'm saying, is i wanna roleplay from a maggot to a god which i sadly cant. And that made me...sad. So i just shared. Not critisczing a game, devs, dnd or any1 i left out. Also i'm a PoE player, Diablo 1 is the only diablo i'd play.

That DOES sounds awesome, though I think this one is supposed to be more like a balanced module with a definitive ending. Many campaigns don't take the players from 1-20.

[Jeysie]

Originally posted by PetrusX:

I have played Pathfinder and there are spells that literally escape from human comprension and also u may find "broken".. i mean, that "excuse" its just trash lmao.... As developers, you should be able to balance every aspect of your game, to fit into the universe u have created.

Worth noting that Owlcat achieved level 20 play by heavily restricting the upper level spells and abilities from the actual full tabletop list.

And in Wrath of the Righteous they had to essentially completely rework the Mythic Path system from how it worked in the tabletop.

I suppose Larian could technically do the same here, but it would clash with how open and complete the rest of the game is.

[living_one]

Originally posted by Radia:

Level 12 in 5e is pretty powerful...

Level 20 means you are basically a god of all multiverses.

Level 20 is peak of mortal potential. Even Elminster is level 22 now iirc, and he's a thirteen century old immortal archmage.


Also there's a mod for that, UnlockLevelCurve - Launch (Level 13-20). It's not complete yet, some class features are missing, but it works without a hitch.
No new spells*, but you can cast old ones with higher level spell slots.

*There is a mod for that too.

[Syynx]

People who think the max level should be higher, is it specifically just because you dislike seeing smaller numbers?

[Dre G Writer]

Originally posted by RamzaBehoulve:

Originally posted by Jimmy:

No point in the post...just what it says in the title...i'm dissapointed..so sad..

They could cheat by locking a class to lvl 12 and use the multiclass feature to reach character lvl 20 though.

There's actually a mod on the nexus mod site that does EXACTLY that.

[PetrusX]

Originally posted by Jimmy:

Yes, as i said i understand the powercreep of this game and dnd in general i've been in the dnd gaming scene since the 90's. What i'm saying, is i wanna roleplay from a maggot to a god which i sadly cant. And that made me...sad. So i just shared. Not critisczing a game, devs, dnd or any1 i left out. Also i'm a PoE player, Diablo 1 is the only diablo i'd play.

Guess i gonna stick into Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous, after the hype from BG3 fade. WoTR is way better game than this one, just lack this quality of Cinematographics, and graphics in general, but in terms of story, character developments, classes, multi class etc, just destroys BG3, in every aspect.

[长安]

D&D isn't about leveling, it's about live your own story, follow your own path with your choice. Finally, the objective isn't the end of the travel, but the travel. Please keep going enjoy it as a D&D game and not as other RPG.

[Sylph]

imagine never playing D&D then crying about what is actually high level

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Syynx:

People who think the max level should be higher, is it specifically just because you dislike seeing smaller numbers?

For me, it's multiple reasons. These are the main ones:
- It makes the class progression feel "incomplete", for lack of a better word.
- It makes the other levels pointless if hardly anyone actually uses them because "they make you too strong". If level 12 is the "ideal" maximum, why even have levels 13-20?

[darkbird1000]

I don't mind lvl 12 in my ad&D campaign ran ~20yrs ~1500yrs games time the Highest lvl a character reached was ~10-11

[PetrusX]

Originally posted by 宿长安:

D&D isn't about leveling, it's about live your own story, follow your own path with your choice. Finally, the objective isn't the end of the travel, but the travel. Please keep going enjoy it as a D&D game and not as other RPG.

Pathfinder does the same thing, only better. D&D is simpler, but it lacks depth. Same with the PoE series, they are better, but less "digerible" from people, due to their complexity