Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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ei 2023 年 8 月 10 日 上午 3:19
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I don't think this game sold 6 million copies
that number seems a bit exaggerated
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DarkStarClassic 2023 年 8 月 20 日 上午 5:03 
引用自 Shintai
It could be 6 million copies over all platforms.
You people should do some research before coming to forums BG3 is ONLY OUT ON PC for now.
Also BG3 is already out in EA for while they sold 2.5 millions copies during EA.

875K concurrent players as record for BG3 seems 6million is even low(look at Hogwarts or Elden Ring who sold very quickly over 10 million.
MonkeyHotDog 2023 年 8 月 20 日 上午 5:06 
Hogwarts Legacy sold around 5 mil copies on steam and their playerbase was 500k at peak.
Baldur's Gate 3 is claimed to have sold 6 mil copies on steam and their playerbase is over 800k at peak.
Abisha 2023 年 8 月 20 日 上午 5:08 
i don't think people on a console is very RPG orientated
they have stupid shooters or something whatever they doing on so box.
Samvega 2023 年 8 月 20 日 上午 5:11 
引用自 Norbac
So no one has proven OP wrong yet, interesting. :vert:

Let's say Bill is on this forum and talking about food.
I say: "Bill likes cheese so much they don't eat anything else."
Bill won't be able to disprove my statement. Bill could say "I eat things that aren't cheese!" and that would not be proof.

And you say: "No one has proven Samvega wrong yet, interesting."

Lesson: Just as a lack of proof does not make something false, a lack of disproof does not make something true.
Morgan 2023 年 8 月 20 日 上午 5:14 
引用自 Norbac
So no one has proven OP wrong yet, interesting. :vert:

The OP is making an assertion, it's up to them to provide proof. There is nothing in player numbers that suggests the figure is false.
MachineGod 2023 年 8 月 20 日 上午 5:16 
I’m thinking it sold more so around 12 copies
Norbac 2023 年 8 月 20 日 上午 5:18 
引用自 Samvega
引用自 Norbac
So no one has proven OP wrong yet, interesting. :vert:

Let's say Bill is on this forum and talking about food.
I say: "Bill likes cheese so much they don't eat anything else."
Bill won't be able to disprove my statement. Bill could say "I eat things that aren't cheese!" and that would not be proof.

And you say: "No one has proven Samvega wrong yet, interesting."

Lesson: Just as a lack of proof does not make something false, a lack of disproof does not make something true.

Awful analogy. If bill denies your claim, that's the closest we'll ever get to the truth so it stands to reason to believe him or at least consider it.

Similarly, if larion showed us some actual statistics, or someone made a claim that undeniably leads to 6m+, then we'd have no choice but to believe it.
So far we have only conjectures, so OP hasn't been proven wrong and can be proven wrong.
最後修改者:Norbac; 2023 年 8 月 20 日 上午 5:23
★REM★ 2023 年 8 月 20 日 上午 5:18 
You right, it sold more as of today.
AceMagase 2023 年 8 月 20 日 上午 5:20 
The game sold 2.5 million in the three years of early access. Selling 3.5 since release is definitely reasonable.
Jean-Maurice Nya 2023 年 8 月 20 日 上午 5:28 
Tencent is partly Chinese, and Larian is partly owned by Tencent. Of course an embassy in China will have the intel, China's communist party wants to know everything about everything, that's why they invest in other economies. So the sales infos from the embassy might be close to reality.
Atari 2600 2023 年 8 月 20 日 上午 5:29 
引用自 Griever
There is no official record of 6 million sales, those are rumors.
That number looks absurd for such a game btw. I'm willing to believe 1+ million due to the hype, but 6 million seems ridiculous.

Let's wait for the official Larian numbers to be released (though are they a public company? Not sure they'll release official statements on sales?)

I'm sorry, critical thinking is sorely missing ion 2023. If they've already had close to 900K playing simultaneously on Steam alone (not even factoring in GoG), then only selling 1+ million TOTAL is a silly notion. That would mean that 85-ish% of ALL the game owners would be playing at the same time, across the entire globe with different day/night cycles and work hours, lol. In general, 15% of game owners are playing at any given time based on numbers from previous hits. For example, Elden Ring had sold 12 million but only had 1 million playing concurrently early on.
最後修改者:Atari 2600; 2023 年 8 月 20 日 上午 5:36
teksuo 2023 年 8 月 20 日 上午 5:32 
diablo3 sold like 30mil copies so so why would 6mil be hard to believe?

seems subpar even.
Atari 2600 2023 年 8 月 20 日 上午 5:36 
引用自 teksuo
diablo3 sold like 30mil copies so so why would 6mil be hard to believe?

seems subpar even.

Sort of like how Diablo IV is subpar. 😁 I bought it...not a fan so far. Loved 2 and 3.
CosmicGumbo 2023 年 8 月 20 日 上午 8:55 
引用自 WastingSanity
引用自 CosmicGumbo
As a satisfied Early Access customer I would love to hear more about what this "bait and switch" was.

P.S. try not to use "I'm sure" or "probably" or "apparently" in your explanation as I'm not interested in your opinion, just the data you seem to be alluding to. Take all the time you need.

According to other players... besides this post here...

引用自 Shadow of Anthares
He have a point, though.
"Bait-and-switch" is a concept, meaning that sellers at the start offering you one thing - then selling you something else. Sometimes not even bad - just different.

Let's delve deeper into the topic. The game called Baldur's Gate 3.

BG franchise have 2 games, and indirectly connects to bunch of other franchises: DnD, Neverwinter Nights, Icewind dale and so on.

Baldur's Gate back in the days were based on ADND - a bit weird mechanics, loved bo some and hated by others. After 2 game, franchise took a rest. It stopped developing - freezing in time, giving us opportunity to return to old mechanics, old stories and old characters. As such, when BG3 were released, people expected to see sequel of franchise, asw well as logical advancement of mechanics and such.

Then....Then, we've seen demo. And, let me tel you!, it was sooooooooooooo unlike Baldur's Gate at all! Bu there were one franchise, which were very close to what we've seen in that demo-vewrsion. Divinity. Hardly surprising, remembering Larian background....But still different.

And now, playing release version, I can confirm - game mechanics, game's style, game's progression system, are very, very, very, very far from original Baldur's Gate. It is not bad, mind you - the franchise HAD to evolve and advance, after all, but....But the fact is - Lariands DO sell us new part of Divinity wrapped in clothes of Baldur's Gate.

Even character's stories to some extent looks EXACTLY coppied. For example - look. This is Sebille - I believe, you remember about her?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCiKL1IMYaA
And...Here's Astarion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlJiIjN1rWs
See much difference? :)

Even DOS2 feature trailer can easilly be linked to BG3 - just look at this :))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL7_U7oWJzk&t=167s

Sooo, returning to original topic - YES. This is literal "bait-and-switch" thingy, almost by the book.
It had not a single chance to turn otherwise with studio of a harcore dedication to one franchise only.

The injection of ideology is a lot heavier in the final version than other players. From the looks of it you will just dismiss the claim and that is fine. I am sure there are many that would agree with you, just like there are many that would not.

The person who's post you copy-pasted was making a completely different point than your claim that "EA players were baited and switched" so including that here is a non-sequitur.

"Injection of ideology is a lot heavier" is a loaded statement. if you're able to re-state your argument in a more neutral and informative way that would be helpful. If I was to read into the statement as is, it sounds like you're alluding to some weird beliefs about LGBT stuff in the game. I would point out that a female Tav could romance Shadowheart or Minthara as easily as a male Tav in EA. The final product being "heavier" with 'ideology' is simply a product of the final game being "heavier" with the main story and companion stories, but you can't pretend that that wasn't present in EA. Of course, if you haven't actually played the EA or final release you wouldn't know that.

Calling LGBT representation in art an 'ideology' is an interesting take. I guess you would consider art that represents a nuclear family to be 'ideological' as well? Because straight relationships are only right wing and gay relationships are only left wing? Living and letting live is not an option? Seems like that would be the moderate take at least.
Zero McDol 2023 年 8 月 20 日 上午 8:56 
6.3 Million units sold on Steam, as of today:
https://vginsights.com/game/1086940
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