Deepened pact + extra attack on patch 8: Stack or not?

[Kamuizin]

So, did anyone checked this? Do we still stack deepened pact of the blade with extra attack outside honour mode or no?

[Harulem]

Deepened pact of the blade is currently bugged in patch 8, and does not provide an extra attack at all.
I tried it in honour mode and tactician, with every subclass, and at level 5 you don't get an extra attack.

[Kamuizin]

Originally posted by Harulem:

Deepened pact of the blade is currently bugged in patch 8, and does not provide an extra attack at all.
I tried it in honour mode and tactician, with every subclass, and at level 5 you don't get an extra attack.

Don't know if it's a bug, they said nothing in the patch notes, but many beta testers told this is intentional.

[xposethedarkside]

Originally posted by Harulem:

Deepened pact of the blade is currently bugged in patch 8, and does not provide an extra attack at all.
I tried it in honour mode and tactician, with every subclass, and at level 5 you don't get an extra attack.

It definitely does provide extra attack. I'm playing hexblade warlock too, and mine works. The only thing that threw me for a loop at first is I thought I could booming blade both attacks, but since it's only once per turn, the other attack has to be a normal one.

[Kamuizin]

Originally posted by xposethedarkside:

It definitely does provide extra attack. I'm playing hexblade warlock too, and mine works. The only thing that threw me for a loop at first is I thought I could booming blade both attacks, but since it's only once per turn, the other attack has to be a normal one.

Well, true to be told, 6d8 (3x2d8) on lvl 10+ would be nosense for a cantrip.

[xposethedarkside]

Originally posted by Kamuizin:

Originally posted by xposethedarkside:

It definitely does provide extra attack. I'm playing hexblade warlock too, and mine works. The only thing that threw me for a loop at first is I thought I could booming blade both attacks, but since it's only once per turn, the other attack has to be a normal one.

Well, true to be told, 6d8 (3x2d8) on lvl 10+ would be nosense for a cantrip.

And yet most other cantrips scale up in damage as well at level 5, so, I mean I don't think I was entirely out of bounds expecting booming blade to as well, but I'm not pressed about it, especially since in trade I got a shadowblade that doesn't need concentration. And that's a bigger win.

[havenking]

Originally posted by xposethedarkside:

Originally posted by Harulem:

Deepened pact of the blade is currently bugged in patch 8, and does not provide an extra attack at all.
I tried it in honour mode and tactician, with every subclass, and at level 5 you don't get an extra attack.

It definitely does provide extra attack. I'm playing hexblade warlock too, and mine works. The only thing that threw me for a loop at first is I thought I could booming blade both attacks, but since it's only once per turn, the other attack has to be a normal one.

I'm bugged too, my hexblade warlock can't use extra attack with the pact of the tome, only with the pact of the blade.

[Raz]

Originally posted by havenking:

Originally posted by xposethedarkside:

It definitely does provide extra attack. I'm playing hexblade warlock too, and mine works. The only thing that threw me for a loop at first is I thought I could booming blade both attacks, but since it's only once per turn, the other attack has to be a normal one.

I'm bugged too, my hexblade warlock can't use extra attack with the pact of the tome, only with the pact of the blade.

That's... Not a bug. Tome does not get extra attack, only blade, and Hexblade only get extra attack when they pick up pact of the blade.

Originally posted by Harulem:

Deepened pact of the blade is currently bugged in patch 8, and does not provide an extra attack at all.
I tried it in honour mode and tactician, with every subclass, and at level 5 you don't get an extra attack.

It does work lol.. I am on Honour and all my Warlocks with Pact of the Blade get their extra attack. I texted it with and without mods enabled; every warlock got extra attack.

[harrisone16]

Originally posted by Raz:

Originally posted by havenking:

I'm bugged too, my hexblade warlock can't use extra attack with the pact of the tome, only with the pact of the blade.

That's... Not a bug. Tome does not get extra attack, only blade, and Hexblade only get extra attack when they pick up pact of the blade.

Yup, they patched that in during the stress test because otherwise pact of the blade would be redundant.

[Raz]

Originally posted by harrisone16:

Yup, they patched that in during the stress test because otherwise pact of the blade would be redundant.

Would have allowed for more build diversity so Hexblade can pick up Tome or Chain.

[havenking]

Originally posted by harrisone16:

Originally posted by Raz:

That's... Not a bug. Tome does not get extra attack, only blade, and Hexblade only get extra attack when they pick up pact of the blade.

Yup, they patched that in during the stress test because otherwise pact of the blade would be redundant.

That's sad, in my opinion hexblade sub class should be an upgraded pact of the blade not needing it to work as intended...

[Favonius]

Not directly related, but i noticed (from combat log) that with Hexblade's curse you could add proficiency bonus to damage multiple times in some cases
In my case, i was using a pacted 2H-sword with Branding Smite and a bardic inspiration damage.
Rolled a critical hit (lucky me) so it was
- slashing damage from the sword + prof bonus
- radiant damage wihtout the prof bonus
- bardic inspiration slash dmg with prof bonus

I dont know if that bonus will apply twice in other cases

[.Master Jiren, The Strongest]

booming blade is a cantrip action, not an attack action. extra attack was never supposed to allow that. only way to do this is with Sorcerer quickened meta magic to use your bonus action for a second cantrip, or use an offhand weapon attack as a bonus action. if you're being given the ability to attack and then use a cantrip as part of the same action, thats either a bug or Larion is homebrewing. Cantrips improve their damage with level to reflect what you'd get if you had extra attack, stacking extra attack on top of that wouldn't make sense, its already being accounted for, thats why cantrips scale.

[Kamuizin]

Originally posted by .Master Jiren, The Strongest:

booming blade is a cantrip action, not an attack action. extra attack was never supposed to allow that.

The whole point of booming blade was the need of a bridge to eldritch knight’s subclass, to make it useful.

If it’s homebrew or core function in 5e, doesn’t matter much, it’s larian official anyway and the ending advantage is +2d8 dices of damage at level 10+ unless the player plan how to induce the enemy to move.

[Nídhögg]

https://ibb.co/CFbCJvT (in french). "If you chose the pact of the blade, you gain an extra attack with your pact weapon. [...] The extra attack granted by this feature does not stack with attacks from other class levels." So doesn't work with other extra attack (capture in honor mode). Binding the cursed weapon does not grant access to the additional attack of the blade pact.