What is the point of crossplay, anyway? (and general Patch 8 malding)

[Ereghor the Enigmatic]

Do that many people even have multiplayer groups where they are willing to wait for the controller users to slowly perform every single action? Not to mention the fact that multiplayer has been notoriously scuffed since launch, which is embarrasing given that they have two games of experience on the same engine?

I am honestly failing to see what exactly the patch has added that hasn't already been implemented as mods, while it somehow managed to introduce bugs where there were none (at least in my experience) before, with characters getting stuck on a Y coordinate and walking on air until you try to jump (typically to your death) or warp. The new subclasses barely fit any origin character and even custom ones, thanks to the arbitrary Baldurian / Underdark tags, are a stretch from a role-playing standpoint (good thing for Larian so few care about immersion, consistency, and suspension of disbelief, I suppose...).

And the photo mode's pose selection is about as immersive as Karlach's writing. What a sendoff for a game that was gargling in its own vomit for almost two years while the crowd was cheering.

[Raz]

Q.Q

[Detective Costeau]

Maybe you should find a game you like.
Seems like that would make you happier than endlessly, uselessly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about one you don't.
Just a thought.

[Sora]

As someone who plays on both controller and mouse and keyboard you can move pretty fast on a controller matter of fact I think I move faster on controller then k&m

[Krankheit]

Game's good. Your opinion's not.

Didn't need to share.

Nobody needed to read.

[Яeplicant]

That's a lot of words for just saying you don't want to play with others.

[Drac]

i've beaten the game on console and pc using only controller i rather play the game with controller the kb+m honestly

also i have family members who only play on console so its finally good to play on pc with them

[Orion_King]

Imagine being a person who feels so important that you feel the need to share that you dont like the game on a forum where people love the game.

Over 100k players one steam alone are playing again, nobody cares about your opinion...

[Eminem]

Originally posted by Ereghor the Enigmatic:

What is the point of crossplay, anyway? (and general Patch 8 malding)

it's literally an option bruh. whine just to whine. YIKES

[JiveTurkey]

I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate it when devs implement features I don't plan on using personally!!!!!

[Bronzeborg]

you know some people play with controllers on pc? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ableist ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Ereghor the Enigmatic]

Originally posted by Orion_King:

Over 100k players one steam alone are playing again, nobody cares about your opinion...

Good for them. Too bad the game's barely changed compared to its release version, especially in contrast with their previous two outings, where they've:
- fully voiced, partially re-wrote and rebalanced (even redesigned to a degree) the entire game, adding a whole new endgame section, as well as implemented the classic / tactician / honour difficulties (D:OS1);
- partially redesigned the final act, as well as added new encounters and kept pumping out free gift pack DLCs one of which included several quests dedicated to armor set collection (D:OS2);
- added mostly cutscenes and token pixel-humper appeasement in form of, egads, kissing animations, finally churning out a whole new 12 already modded subclasses while the game still has noticeable barebones companion questlines, lumps of dialogues and story iterations awkwardly jumbled together, and bugs that have been there from the start (the star probably being Minthara's "bugged" dialogues - because sure, a "bug" is how a character gets shipped cut to hell and back) getting barely fixed while introducing new ones (BG3).

The first two games also had complete modding support with custom campaign creation without resorting to a "hacked" modkit, and are overall better in terms of writing, design (especially encounter design), and pacing, but got overlooked in favour of this mediocre overhyped product of bad childbirth. No fairness in this universe indeed, none at all.

[Detective Costeau]

U mad bro?

[Ereghor the Enigmatic]

Originally posted by Detective Costeau:

U mad bro?

Mostly just autistic. As well as having had what many did with Cyberpunk in terms of expectations vs. reality, except here they had a 2+-year-long EA period (followed by another one...) which should have excluded the possibility of how much of a f*ck-up the game ended up compared to what it could have been. That the EA-tested Act 1 ended up getting the shears in the full version says a thing or two about how well the development went.

[Tag365]

Originally posted by Ereghor the Enigmatic:

Do that many people even have multiplayer groups where they are willing to wait for the controller users to slowly perform every single action? Not to mention the fact that multiplayer has been notoriously scuffed since launch, which is embarrasing given that they have two games of experience on the same engine?

I think the controller speed issue might be a problem for some, but friend groups will likely tolerate that and I think that's what they are aiming for. I have no experience with the multiplayer so I can't comment on the other "scuffed" stuff.

Originally posted by Ereghor the Enigmatic:

The first two games also had complete modding support with custom campaign creation without resorting to a "hacked" modkit, and are overall better in terms of writing, design (especially encounter design), and pacing, but got overlooked in favour of this mediocre overhyped product of bad childbirth. No fairness in this universe indeed, none at all.

I don't like how the modding toolkit of this game was nerfed artificially. Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2 were designed with custom campaigns in mind, with fully built in map editing and other similar things.

[Zack]

I can't wait til my sister and I have time to play. She's on ps5 and a real rookie at the game so I don't mind being the one to manage everything.