Is it really "progress" to be "still alive"?

[Mike Garrison]

Isn't "progress" something that is new? Being "still alive" seems more like just treading water.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Mike Garrison:

Is it really "progress" to be "still alive"?
Isn't "progress" something that is new? Being "still alive" seems more like just treading water.

Kinda depressing.

[guard65]

Isn't it more like, if you do not struggle to survive, are you living?

[Wuorg]

You alright, mate?

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

And the Science gets done.
And you make a neat gun.
For the people who are
still alive.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuLktUzq23c

Dunno why this song just popped in my head...:P

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by guard65:

Isn't it more like, if you do not struggle to survive, are you living?

Yes. If you're constantly struggling you're not living, you're surviving.

[guard65]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by guard65:

Isn't it more like, if you do not struggle to survive, are you living?

Yes. If you're constantly struggling you're not living, you're surviving.

I kind of consider a couch potato to not be living, just surviving.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by guard65:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Yes. If you're constantly struggling you're not living, you're surviving.

I kind of consider a couch potato to not be living, just surviving.

There's a massive spectrum between "couch potato" and "struggling every day just to stay alive".

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by 1337_h4x0r_xXx_deathlord666_xXx:

And the Science gets done.
And you make a neat gun.
For the people who are
still alive.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuLktUzq23c

Dunno why this song just popped in my head...:P

That is still nice. I would think more along the lines of "My R" - translation by annapantsu

[seeker1]

Since I believe in Maslow's hierarchy of needs, I think you kind of HAVE to meet the first level of needs, which are survival. Having enough to eat, etc.

However, once you meet those needs, there are higher order needs that human beings need. Like for love, companionship, meaningful work, creativity, leisure, aesthetic enjoyment, learning, and so on.

But, as Maslow always notes, it can be hard for people to focus on the higher level needs, when they are having difficulty just meeting the first level ones, and just struggling to survive.

BTW, I don't know the exact reason for the question, or what it has to do with this game, but... I hope that wasn't a cry for help from OP.

[yahboi1988]

Life is what you make it. You seem to desire a tragedy.

[Mike Garrison]

Originally posted by 1337_h4x0r_xXx_deathlord666_xXx:

And the Science gets done.
And you make a neat gun.
For the people who are
still alive.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuLktUzq23c

Dunno why this song just popped in my head...:P

Literally my favorite part of Portal.

We do what we must, because we can.
For the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead.

[Worlord]

Maybe it's not progress in itself, but you need to be alive to make any progress.

[45]

Time exists so staying alive LONGER is thus progressing in time.

[EricHVela]

I'm struggling to find the connection with BG3.

Was there some kind of life lesson to be learned in the game? For me, lessons I learn about life don't come from entertainment media but from living life.

[Levianne]

Originally posted by Mike Garrison:

Isn't "progress" something that is new? Being "still alive" seems more like just treading water.

Being alive for another day is still something new with a hungry tadpole in your head, that could change you into an Illithid at any moment, weren't it for the Emperor's protection, which at the time your character doesn't know about. After you find out about your protection, that sentence doesn't make much sense anymore, but it does in the begining of the game and Larian didn't code it to disable later when you do uncover the truth.

Originally posted by EricHVela:

I'm struggling to find the connection with BG3.

The connection is that your character is sometimes saying this "still me, despite everything" when you click on a mirror and "still breathing, despite everything", when you select them. Maybe even "still alive, at least that's progress", at some point, but not sure about that one. But the two actual quotes can still be interpreted as being alive being seen as progress.