The characters are so annoying I'm not sure I can continue

[FrogL0RD]

This game quality in a lot of areas, but it’s edgy in ALL the wrong ways. I started out loving this game. I love how the idea of the choices being so impactful and taking multiple paths to achieving the same goal is very cool, but I picked this game up because I wanted to experience the storytelling. The story telling sucks. Everything is poorly introduced. They do have some great moments of emotion with Shadowheart, but overall — she’s the only character I like.

Astarion tried to get fresh but batting him away seemed to work, so no big deal, but Karlach and Lazell are super annoying and why can’t one of them be a strong man? All the masculine characters are women. Even the guards are all women. The narrator too? Even so, I enjoyed combat and the game engine and dialogue depth are awesome, so it was still fun to play.

Now once I get to act 3 and I had to deal with watching the Nightsong’s “relationship” I almost quit there. This serves no valid plot point whatsoever. It’s just pandering, and it destroys immersion. I heard the head guy Sven guy say “we’re not pushing politics.” BS. This is a MA game with all kinds of sexual references but the NPCs in act 3 seem like they are from a bad disney movie.

Your number one rule for crafting a narrative should be to make characters that are relatable and that people are forced to care about. You’ve made characters that are so bad I would rather spend my time ranting about my distaste for them rather than finishing the game. I can't see myself buying another one of these games. I really wanted to love this game too.

[dolby]

your lucky when BG 3 was in EA they were even more hostile and people liked them less so they made them more friendly. I guess not enough for you.

At least you got to act 3 :) i could never do it do to other reason more related to gameplay.

[Artcake]

As a huge fan of BG1 and especially BG2 I sadly have to agree to 90% of what is written here, 10% being I hate Shadowheart exactly for the reasons you have listed, she is as edgy as an emo goth teenager, and I threw her off a cliff first chance I got on my first play through.

Second thing being I do not care if the strong genders are male or female this is a fantasy with goblins and dragons I can stretch my disbelief in thinking women are as equally strong as men here, to me it is the story telling that matters. To this point the whole True Soul confused the hell out of me, like I felt my character was calling themselves "True Soul" out of the blue without any reference or context.

The whole True Soul plot cannot hold the candle in a million years to be a Child of Bhaal and how the gameplay perfectly matches that concept in its predecessors.

Good grief Gortash is the WORST character I have ever seen in a game, and I completely agree that he looks like out of a nock-off cheap disney, both in how he looks and how he talks.

[Maj. Grumpy]

Love the writing of the characters and the writing in general. Especially love the character and voice acting. I also love the story of all the characters and the main one. Brilliant job, by Larian.

[seeker1]

Originally posted by FrogL0RD:

Astarion tried to get fresh but batting him away seemed to work, so no big deal, but Karlach and Lazell are super annoying and why can’t one of them be a strong man?

So are they "annoying" (I mean, BTW, yes, Lae'Zel definitely IS, especially at first, she is a straight up Githyanki supremacist who views all Istiks as inferior species), or is at that you are annoyed that these two warriors you have just met are women?

I don't find that annoying. Lots of CRPGs have had women warriors. Shrug.

All the masculine characters are women. Even the guards are all women. The narrator too?

Yes, the narrator's name is a VA named Amelia Tyler, and she is a woman. So? Would you prefer the game to be narrated by Sir David Attenborough? What does it matter what gender the narrator is?

It’s just pandering, and it destroys immersion. I heard the head guy Sven guy say “we’re not pushing politics.” BS.

I agree with Sven. They are not.

[Wuorg]

Regardless of how I feel about the specifics of what you have to say...Idk why people that feel *this strongly* certain negative feelings about the main cast would even put themselves through going all the way to Act 3. Just put the game down if it causes you so much pain, like damn.

[Draknalor]

Am i the only male who rather look at women than men?

Always confusing to me that people are angry because there are too many women.

Why as a man, would i want to look at a man?

[Wuorg]

Originally posted by Draknalor:

Am i the only male who rather look at women than men?

Always confusing to me that people are angry because there are too many women.

Why as a man, would i want to look at a man?

This:

Originally posted by FrogL0RD:

...Karlach and Lazell are super annoying and why can’t one of them be a strong man?

Is one of the funniest lines from one of these posts I've read. But also probably points both to how your question would get answered and hints at the actual underlying answer.

[alanc9]

Originally posted by FrogL0RD:

Astarion tried to get fresh but batting him away seemed to work, so no big deal, but Karlach and Lazell are super annoying and why can’t one of them be a strong man? All the masculine characters are women. Even the guards are all women. The narrator too? Even so, I enjoyed combat and the game engine and dialogue depth are awesome, so it was still fun to play.

Now once I get to act 3 and I had to deal with watching the Nightsong’s “relationship” I almost quit there. This serves no valid plot point whatsoever. It’s just pandering, and it destroys immersion.

Yeah, if you're into traditional gender roles and have a problem with queer characters, this game isn't for you. I don't know why it took you so long to figure it out.

The thing you need to remember is that everyone always thinks their own values are neutral and apolitical. Larian's a bunch of people who think that it's normal to be uninterested in old-fashioned gender roles and that queerness is just fine. From where they sit you're the one getting political here.

[Dude]

this is why you pirate games before buying

[northernwater]

Use hirelings. I do. They are nice and quiet.

[Hobocop]

Eh, if the game's mechanics don't care about 'traditional' gender roles, I don't see why I should outside of specific cultures like drow. And D&D hasn't cared about 'traditional' gender roles since 2e nixed disparate ability score caps based on sex/gender.

[Morbsexual]

Seems like a you problem

[Budoshi]

Originally posted by Draknalor:

Am i the only male who rather look at women than men?

Always confusing to me that people are angry because there are too many women.

Why as a man, would i want to look at a man?

i mean, shadow heart its all i need

[Raz]

My guy, you are worried about gender roles in a world/game setting where a goddess has been transforming her male believers into full blown breedable women since the 1990s... That train been left the station.

[Féanor]

just say you never played dnd :,)