What cheeses are still possible or very strong?

[Jordan_Peterson]

I remember in Divinity you could use telekenesis to move from a hidden position an enemy far away from his location, one by one, so u dont have to face the whole group.
Guess this is not possible in BG3?
Other than that, I knew surfaces could be abused, so maybe water and then electrolute or throw gunpowder barels on enemies.

Do you know any other cool or good cheeses in BG3 for easy fights? Maybe a veteran or very smart player here ?

[brendan_in_china]

No much to abuse!

My worst abuses are camp casters and pickpocketing. The whole party is always buffed to the gills and has every magic resource that traders can provide.

Going to dial these down next play through for leaner feel.

[Sonic Titan]

Originally posted by DE_sucks:

Do you know any other cool or good cheeses in BG3 for easy fights? Maybe a veteran or very smart player here ?

Rotten Waterdhavian cheese wheel with tavern brawler.

[Bumc]

Better yet you can be cheese. I believe there is a mod that lets you do it on demand, otherwise you'll need some help from a certain djinni.

[Metalligamer1886]

rogues with stealth can get you out of nearly anything

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by DE_sucks:

What cheeses are still possible or very strong?
I remember in Divinity you could use telekenesis to move from a hidden position an enemy far away from his location, one by one, so u dont have to face the whole group.
Guess this is not possible in BG3?
Other than that, I knew surfaces could be abused, so maybe water and then electrolute or throw gunpowder barels on enemies.

Do you know any other cool or good cheeses in BG3 for easy fights? Maybe a veteran or very smart player here ?

Ever tried blue cheese? That is very strong.

Otherwise try the Doomstalker.

[jonnin]

bg3 has its own. There is a telekenisis spell but I am not sure that in most arenas it actually helps split up the fight enough to matter. Ive used it to move a weak NPC that we were protecting to safety (minor damage from the spell, though).

Some stuff..
- barrels and explosives are plentiful and potent. You can combine with distractions like bard music to attract everyone into range then boom...
- fall to death. Any area labeled chasm or with obvious bad mojo (like lava) will kill instantly or near enough if shoved into it. Gravity damage also kills in some areas, or trivializes fights like the big spider in act 1. Also warlock can make its cantrip knock stuff around, you can shove, throw, other spells like the level 1 thunderwave or whatever all knock stuff around.
- some spells don't have any save against all or part of their damage. you can throw / knock into them and grease the floor or something to keep them dying from the effect.
- tavern brawler feat is pretty much pure cheese in and of itself. It lets you make never miss throwing (ranged) or melee (monk) builds that are extremely strong because they don't miss more than the damage dealt.
- cold and electric damage double for wet targets. Any number of ways to make this powerful.
- a variety of spells can make opponents drop weapons, attack each other, die slowly trying to get to you, disable opponents (some make them take crit damage every hit), or other effects that can wipe a powerful group in moments.
- shoot and move kite tactics work.
- ambushing (attack from unseen/unaware) gets you 2 turns and can win the fight before it starts.

you really don't need a lot of this. DOS was pretty intense combat from the exit of the intro prison area forward it just kept scaling up fast. Bg3 is much less brutal and easier.

[Mander]

Barrelmancy is a school of magic of its own.
Some bosses can be cheesed abusing their own arenas (final boss of Grymforge for example).
Arrow of Darkness and arrow of roaring thunder can be a very strong option to “accidentally” break line of sights (hence ambush) or sending people in the abyss (respectively).
Gravity is still a mean mother.
Not as mozzarella, but anything that induces “wet” on an enemy plus lightning damage does enough to one shot many enemies even on tactician.

[Popsicles]

Pushing is the biggest cheese of them all. There are so many 'bosses' that can be beat by a simple shove.

[⎛⎝ Kupo ⎠⎞]

I remember on my first playthrough I killed Orin by mistake by knocking her off the platform with the Eldritch Blast knockback.

Edit: Globe of Invulnerability comes to mind too.
It turns a lot of the fights into a joke in act 3.

[Panda]

If you compare BG3 with DOS2 - BG3 has more cheese, MUCH MORE, try minor illusion, a single cantrip IS the strongest spell in the game before the combat.

Sudden attack => free round unless boss has Alert feat which prevents him to skip 1st round.

Barrels - not that broken like a telekinesis in DOS2, but still, quite broken.

Sorcerer class after 5th level with average gear can CC 95% of enemies which is huge, same with ice surface just like in DOS2, but enemies here can have a blink/huge jump to overcome it.

Pause button.

Free movement if you are not in the combat for your allies/you.

[ZTEQ]

TB Monk is pretty broken. Not sure if I would call it cheesy but its crazy powerful and loads of fun. Very powerful melee and range (with thrown weapons).

Monks are supposed to be dex based traditionally, but with this single feat (TB) + high strength it turns monk into an absolute killing machine.

As someone who normally dislikes the monk class in most games, it's probably my favorite class or close in BG3 (with TB feat of course).

[jonnin]

Originally posted by ZTEQ:

TB Monk is pretty broken. Not sure if I would call it cheesy but its crazy powerful and loads of fun. Very powerful melee and range (with thrown weapons).

Monks are supposed to be dex based traditionally, but with this single feat (TB) + high strength it turns monk into an absolute killing machine.

As someone who normally dislikes the monk class in most games, it's probably my favorite class or close in BG3 (with TB feat of course).

I see that a lot, that monks 'used to be dex' and I keep remembering my half orc dragon disciple (1 level of sorcerer, several levels of DD, rest monk) with nearly a 30 str in NWN2. (DD adds +4 str from class, half orc adds 2 more, items add more,..). And another one, forget which game, the sacred fist (monk/cleric prestige class). I can't recall ever trying to run it as dex .. all you got from dex was AC, and back then, magical armor spells and other buffs lasted for hours, including stuff like cleric's cats grace and so on for some dex ac without the focus on the stat. You had to have a feat that took a while to get to add dex bonus to damage, but str added naturally. That was a very nice change, to add dex damage to dex weapons....

[@%thesock10150alpha49]

Originally posted by brendan_in_china:

camp casters and pickpocketing.

Did they patch Camp Cleric Gale yet? If they haven't, him casting Warding bond. He heals in camp after taking damage, so the bond will (almost) never kill him and stay up indefinitely.

Pass Without Trace + Greater Invis = Skyrim level stealth archer

Arcane Acuity is so strong that it's definitely at least Cheese flavored.

Smokepowder bombs can be stolen from vendors ad nauseam via a glitch. Drop them all at once and then throw the stack to kill nearly anything.

Sorcerers can use a shield to gain infinite sorcery points (and thusly Spellslots) and completely bugger the action economy.

Gravity is a thing.

There's lots of cheese. Each flavor tailored to the situation you're in.

[Rommel]

I went with the Limburger cheese.....granted a bit strong on the nose
but it does the job.

[@%thesock10150alpha49]

Ooh, also. If you use "Improvised Melee Weapon" on a person and click far away, your character will pick them up and run with them to where you selected to hit them. If you Right-Click to cancel that *before* you get to the spot, your character will put them down unharmed. This usually does not provoke aggression.

Meaning that you can use this method to carry and re-position people that aren't hostile before fights. A lot of people cheese Gortash this way, using a waypoint to huck him off of a cliff. I recommend you look it up.

You can even use it mid combat since if you don't finish the animation, it won't use an action. So you can carry people to ledges and then shove them off, keeping your regular action intact.