Invis and Stealth

[Brian]

If you're using invisibility (such as playing as a Duegar), does that pretty much make your stealth skill pointless? I'm wondering if I should put my expertise selection somewhere else, like perception.

[Sentient_Toaster]

seeker1 původně napsal:

Said this many times. What kind of silly Swashbuckler can't disarm, trip, flourish, or stagger their opponents with swordplay? Well, 5E RAW Swashbuckler can't, but I'm hoping Larian homebrews a bit (as they often do) on their version.

WOTC might have thought that it'd make dexterity even more of a god stat than it already is. Allowing a Rogue to pick expertise in Athletics and use Dexterity for opponent-manipulation (shoving prone) would make them be nearly as good at this as, say, a raging barbarian.

[seeker1]

Cunning Strike allows a rogue to convert a die of Sneak Attack damage into another hindering effect on your opponent.

It's not implemented in the game (but it is in the "UA6" 2024 PHB update) ...
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/507

So you can forego some damage in order to trip, poison, disarm, or just withdraw from the opponent (without an opportunity attack). I use that. Personally, I think it'd also be cool for options to sap/stun, bleed, or garrote, but for that last thing, it seems you have to be a Bhaalist.

Did you know there is a way you can garrote & strangle people you surprise attack? Well ... only with one pair of Bhaalist gloves.
https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Garrotte

Which you can only get if you pledge service to Bhaal & the Murder Tribunal.

[[TG] zac]

Sentient_Toaster původně napsal:

seeker1 původně napsal:

Said this many times. What kind of silly Swashbuckler can't disarm, trip, flourish, or stagger their opponents with swordplay? Well, 5E RAW Swashbuckler can't, but I'm hoping Larian homebrews a bit (as they often do) on their version.

WOTC might have thought that it'd make dexterity even more of a god stat than it already is. Allowing a Rogue to pick expertise in Athletics and use Dexterity for opponent-manipulation (shoving prone) would make them be nearly as good at this as, say, a raging barbarian.

Thing is in older editions all martial classes could do those things.
Some of the checks worked off of athletics and strength instead of dex.

It gave martials something to do other then bonk people and was quite good.
Other systems that spawned off of older editions (pathfinder 1-2, OSR etc...) kept those things in.

Wizards wasn't really thinking about balance when they took it out either.
They said they wanted martials to be "less complicated".
Problem is they never gave them anything to compensate for losing it.

[seeker1]

Yeah, Pathfinder held on to Cunning Strike for Rogues, which I think was introduced in 3.5e, but it disappeared from later WotC editions and as I said didn't seem to come back to D & D until the 2024 update.