Ending choices mod (spoilers)

[Lord Zorplf]

Anyone know of a mod that allows you to select a different character for ceremorphosis other than Tav, Orpheus, or Karlach? It seems the only way that everyone gets a happy ending is to play as origin Gale since he can go mind flayer and then get redeemed by Mystra. I'd love to be able to just send Gale off to mind flayer town as Tav to achieve the same effect

[Raz]

We ain't even got campaign mods yet and you're asking for a mod that completely retools the ending of the game which would require the same level of changes a campaign mod would? Not to mention, what you're asking for is likely more difficult than a full blown campaign due to what you're asking for has a lot of conflicting flags. Probably would just break the game.

[seeker1]

Well, you may want to look at my "Nobody has to become a mindflayer" thread.

Spoiler warning again.

There is a way to hack the ending of the game. Nobody has to become a mindflayer if you side with Emperor as he already is one. But Emperor is a douche and Vlaakith sucks so I almost always opt not to.

Normally, if you side with Orpheus, you have three choices. Tav, him, or Karlach must become a mindflayer. Or, if your'e doing an origin run, the origin protag can opt to become a mindflayer, and in Gale's case, it could be reversible through Mystra. Yep.

There is a mod called ring of ceremorphosis. Lets another character turn into a mindflayer, complete with Karsus' compulsion, at ANY point in the game. I tested it; I like to test and experiment with lots of things. In theory, that character could finish the game and no one else would have to transform. In practice, the game's scripts don't recognize this as happening, so Orpheus will ignore it. And thus presents the usual three choices.

But I found a hack. There is a mod at Nexus called Make Character an Avatar. What essentially it does is confer the "avatar" tag on a character besides Tav (or whoever is the protag) so they can essentially get treated as if they were the protag/origin by certain scripts and events. So: yes, using that hack, I made a hireling an avatar, he stepped forward, offered to become a mindflayer, and Orpheus transformed him. I finished the game that way.

And so no, Karlach didn't transform, Tav didn't, and Orpheus didn't. Gale or some other companion didn't. Some poor shmuck of a hireling made the sacrifice. So he's somewhere, unremembered, unrecognized, unappearing in the Epilogue. He may be dealing with now being a mindflayer, but alas his plight will go undiscussed. Somebody became a mindflayer, but it's somebody the Epilogue ignores. LOL.

Of course, if you don't transform Karlach, she's gonna die if you don't send her back to Avernus with either you or Wyl. And, as I've found, if you fly off with Lae'Zel right at the start of the "pre epilogue," to join her little rebellion, you never get the chance to have Wyll offer to go with her, and she just dies, unseen.

[turak]

This was amazing, Toggle Avatar on Party Members works brilliantly in confront the elder brain. Minthara was willing to become a mindflayer and pretty evil/ruthless. Made her a tav, got to the elder brain and turned off her tav status. That way my tav got the ending and epilogue without being a squid (apart from a reference a squid in one sentence by Orpheus but that could be for good old Minthy. Ok Minthara is now a squid face in the epilogue but no one seems to care and she has her normal ending. Perfect!