What's the most broken build that you conceived?

[Toasty]

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[[TG] zac]

Messaggio originale di 1337_h4x0r_xXx_deathlord666_xXx:

Messaggio originale di TG zac:

True, but it still came at a heavy cost to customization and build choice that frankly feels like it was excessive.

Sure, if you only count raw, there is some truth to it...
In praxis at the table however, In all my years of DMing 5e I've not once ran into a situation where I couldn't offer the player what he wanted and be it by reflavouring or outright homebrewing. Both things that are encouraged to do by the official rules.
So it's a very weak argument in my eyes.
And I've mentioned it plenty of times already, the way pf1e at least (haven't looked at pf2e) does it, also has major drawbacks for some players. It absolutely bombards the players with so many options, that many feel a real decision paralysis and find the prospect of levelling up daunting, leading to them just using some guide online, which makes the whole "options" thing rather redundant, if those options don't get used....
Not even talking about the countless times I've been warned about all the noobtraps in the game, or feats that are widely regarded as essential.

Sure you can make anything via homebrew for any system.
The problem is that won't carry over from table to table and eventually gets to be a lot to keep track of. (the amount of home brew that we have had to do for 5e over the years to fix problems could write a book)

While 1e had those noob traps 2e really doesn't have any feats I would say are must have.
(some are good improvements but they have good competition in most respects, so it comes down to flavor a lot of the time)

They also broke all the feats into different categories (Ancestry, skill, general & class) with each category coming at different levels so the choice is a lot simpler and you won't really have to choose between flavor or something that increases your power anymore.

2e essentially broke away from 3.5 completely and is redesigned from the ground up changes to how everything works, especially with the action economy and proficiencies.

About the only things that remain the same is you still have a penalty for each attack after the first (which encourages you to do other things like intimidate, recall knowledge, feint etc...) and there are still only 3 types of saving throw.

[Exarch_Alpha]

Messaggio originale di Angel:

eldritch knight archer

Uh... doesn´t sound that good for me

[Fitness Lauch]

There is not one most broken build, it heavily depends on the situation and if you're ok with spamming consumeables. Anyways, the top contenders would be imo swordsbard, monk, abjuration wizard, fire sorc and support cleric. Have beaten modded honor mode with 300-500% more health on opponents, more actions, more AC, higher attack rolls, more movement speed and higher spell save dc with a party of swordsbard, monk, life cleric and abju wizard and without using consumeables.

If you want to use consumeables then go Gloomstalker or ranged Fighter and spam arrows of many targets/slaying arrows which are beyond broken.

Melee builds feel very underwhelming however, except for monk.

Messaggio originale di Exarch_Alpha:

Messaggio originale di Angel:

eldritch knight archer

Uh... doesn´t sound that good for me

It is IF (and that's a VERY big if) you use special arrows, haste and scrolls in each turn. If not it's just a weaker version of ranged champion fighter and definitely a much weaker version of a swords bard.

[Mr Fred]

The Uninstall Wizard to go play games that arent 5e and have enough depth to them to make actual broken build.

[Wuorg]

Messaggio originale di Fitness Lauch:

Messaggio originale di Exarch_Alpha:

Uh... doesn´t sound that good for me

It is IF (and that's a VERY big if) you use special arrows, haste and scrolls in each turn. If not it's just a weaker version of ranged champion fighter and definitely a much weaker version of a swords bard.

Yeah, archer fighter is super underrated, just because of all the arrows you can use. Almost have Arcane Archer already in the form of Eldritch Knight Archer.

[Wiznatts]

BG3 has some truly unhinged things you can do with the items available. I built an abjuration wizard, warlock, war cleric who's intention in combat was to mainly do damage with Armor of Agathys' return damage. Unfortunately with all the temp hp from Agathys, perma Blade Ward leading to halved non-magical damage, and flat damage reduction from Arcane Ward and Heavy Armor Master + Helldusk Armor + Force Conduit, enemy martials would realize they couldn't actually do damage even if they hit and stopped attacking at all. I literally soloed Sarevok without him swinging at me. Not the most powerful thing I built in terms of damage output, but definitely the most broken in terms of "the game's AI just shuts off." Eventually I took off a lot of the defensive gear so that people would actually be able to hit me and my Agathys plan could start working. But for any encounter where the primary threat is "people trying to hit you with weapons" this is literally invincible.

2 levels of any warlock subclass for Armor of Shadows lets you cast Mage Armor for free infinitely. 1 level of war cleric gives you proficiency with all weapons, shields, and Heavy Armor. Finish out with Abjuration Wizard. Helm of Balduran gives crit immunity. Cloak of Displacement is basically permanent blur since you never actually take damage. Helldusk Armor maximizes damage reduction. Pairing the Reviving Hands with Helm of Balduran gives permanent Blade Ward. Evasive Shoes for +1 AC (boots slot is pretty free tho, this just makes number go up). Amulet of the Devout is +2 spell save DC. Band of the Mystic Scoundrel for bonus action CC spells and Ring of Protection for another +1 AC. Infernal Rapier allows attacking off your spellcasting modifier. Swires' Sledboard stacks even more flat damage reduction with force conduit. The Hellrider Longbow helps to shore up your low initiative.

https://eip.gg/bg3/build-planner/?buildId=cm4vwaapv0k0ad4zemim7ycdh full end game set up

[Fitness Lauch]

Messaggio originale di Wuorg:

Messaggio originale di Fitness Lauch:

It is IF (and that's a VERY big if) you use special arrows, haste and scrolls in each turn. If not it's just a weaker version of ranged champion fighter and definitely a much weaker version of a swords bard.

Yeah, archer fighter is super underrated, just because of all the arrows you can use. Almost have Arcane Archer already in the form of Eldritch Knight Archer.

Yeah it's insane. It's not even much about the class but more about the arrows. Doesn't really matter if you play Eldritch Knight, Champion or Gloomstalker, arrows of many targets will just annihilate the entire battlefield in one turn lol. Only downside is that it requires farming consumeables which is (understandably) a bummer for a lot of people.