Railroaded into a romance with Gale despite already romancing Karlach.

[TaraPryde]

I'm in Act 2 and just completed the Hellion's Heart sidequest. I had been romancing Karlach up to that point and was really excited to see her and my character finally getting intimate. However when I long rested I was instead greeted to Gale's hologram inviting me to a romantic night of stargazing with him. I had never expressed any romantic interest in Gale whatsoever, and yet this has continued happening after multiple reloads. Is this a bug anybody else has had? Is there anything I can do to fix it? Is this a mod issue, and if so is my entire save file busted?

Also I'm pretty sure the star gazing sequence isn't supposed to trigger in the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shadow lands.

[Angel]

gale's romance WAS super buggy and has since been patched, but you never know who has a legit bug or just wants to complain these days...if you think it's a legit bug you can report it to larian, see if that helps

[FunkyMonkey]

Originally posted by Mike Garrison:

1) The stargazing scene *is* supposed to trigger in the shadowlands. It's all an illusion Gale has created, because he is trying to comfort himself about his imminent demise.

2) Getting invited to join Gale there is not necessarily a romance thing. If you are not romancing Gale, he's usually just looking for friendship.

3) The only times it actually turned into a romance scene for me was a) when I actually was romancing Gale, and b) when I had very high approval from Gale and was not romancing anyone else. If Gale starts telling you that he loves you -- explicitly in those words -- then you have the romance option. (You can still say no.) Otherwise, he's only looking for friendly company.

This. I've had that scene in Shadowlands every time and while it's an intimate scene, it's not necessarily romantic. I understand, though, it can feel like it.

[GriffinPilgrim]

For goodness sake.
Not every emotional connection between two men need be romantic or sexual.

[Zeel Ara]

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

For goodness sake.
Not every emotional connection between two men need be romantic or sexual.

Consider the source. Someone who has never experience any kind of emotional connection with anyone won't have a way to tell things apart. BG3 is basically exposure therapy to them.

[Hobocop]

Never had a night around the campfire under the stars chatting with friends about the meaning of life or whatever?

That's basically what it ends up being.

[Wuorg]

I wonder how much of all the homophobic Gale hate is just men being so averse to emotional intimacy with other men that they see simple friendship as being a "romance."

[Targaryen22]

Originally posted by Wuorg:

I wonder how much of all the homophobic Gale hate is just men being so averse to emotional intimacy with other men that they see simple friendship as being a "romance."

Probably far more then either of us would hope it would be lol

[TaraPryde]

Originally posted by Moffle:

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

For goodness sake.
Not every emotional connection between two men need be romantic or sexual.

Consider the source. Someone who has never experience any kind of emotional connection with anyone won't have a way to tell things apart. BG3 is basically exposure therapy to them.

Consider the source. I'm not a man, and this game occasionally does a bad job at signaling what is a platonic interaction and what isn't. I'm sure certain people who said yes to seeing Gale's magic trick in Act 1 can attest to that.

[GriffinPilgrim]

Originally posted by TaraPryde:

Originally posted by Moffle:

Consider the source. Someone who has never experience any kind of emotional connection with anyone won't have a way to tell things apart. BG3 is basically exposure therapy to them.

Consider the source. I'm not a man, and this game occasionally does a bad job at signaling what is a platonic interaction and what isn't. I'm sure certain people who said yes to seeing Gale's magic trick in Act 1 can attest to that.

If you do say yes he literally shows you some magic. It only turns romantic if you pick the option "Picture kissing Gale." Which I'd say is pretty clearly signalled.

[Piperbird]

I wasn't dating Gale, I was dating Karlach when I got this scene. It's such a beautiful, sad scene. Gale doesn't want to die. He wants to spend a night with a friend having a bit of a (kind of well earned) pity party, just looking at the stars and appreciating being alive.

There's only romance if YOU choose those options on purpose.

You weren't railroaded into anything.

[Raz]

I've done multiple runs, I have never romanced Gale, and only a few of them had him come onto me in a Romantic manner because I had picked romance options. I have had more Non-Romance starry night scenes, than Gale trying to date me version of them, and in all of them he directly states he doesn't want to be alone, and he wants a friend (explicitly states he wants a friend, no grey area) for the night so that he isn't alone with his thoughts of having to die. After the scene, Gale never tried getting in my pants.

Basically; stop picking the lines that lead into a romance.

[Hobocop]

Originally posted by Mike Garrison:

Why do people FREAK OUT about Gale's "let me show you some magic" scene? I just don't get it.

I don't get it, either. Especially after a year of patches, one of which specifically addressed Gale's 'parameters' being held over from Early Access erroneously.

Maybe the past four years have brain broken some to the point where merely sharing a meal together is considered a romantic gesture. As if no one has ever split a pizza while playing D&D.

[Maj. Grumpy]

So, an NPC, in a game rated "Mature", invited you, or suggested to you to maybe partake in a romantic moment. Where a choice to partake is clearly given to you.

You know there's also murder, genocidal acts, slavery, child-killing and even animal abuse in this game.

But you need a 'mod' to keep yourself from the uncomfortable flirting of an NPC.

[Raz]

Originally posted by Maj. Grumpy:

you know there's also murder, genocidal acts, slavery, child-killing and even animal abuse in this game.

Don't forget the rape (some of which they did take out, such as Minthara being raped by Orin). Sex trafficking (so, more rape). Mind breaking (that also leads to rape, go figure). Humanoid experimentation. Various and copious amounts of torture. Cannibalism.

[alanc9]

Originally posted by GriffinPilgrim:

Originally posted by TaraPryde:

Consider the source. I'm not a man, and this game occasionally does a bad job at signaling what is a platonic interaction and what isn't. I'm sure certain people who said yes to seeing Gale's magic trick in Act 1 can attest to that.

If you do say yes he literally shows you some magic. It only turns romantic if you pick the option "Picture kissing Gale." Which I'd say is pretty clearly signalled.

Still, after a year of this, I think Larian should explicitly flag all the PCs flirt lines, the way Bioware does nowadays.

If nothing else, it would make it easier to make fun of the complainers.