Stuck on impossible spider matriarch fight

[Alxndr]

https://i.imgur.com/isY3ghw.png

4th time being defeated. I just can't figure out a good way to deal with this fight. They just teleport from 1 side to the other all the time so whenever I get close they just teleport away. I can't just jump to go down to the ground because I lose hp and go prone.

I burn the webs so the spiders can't use them but my characters jump range isn't long enough to jump from platform to platform. The mother spawns mini spiders so I need to try and burst her down fast.

Really struggling with this one. Any advice?

[Ryzilynt]

Use ranged attacks. Burn the webs when the spider is standing on them .

[Lord Farquad]

Shoot the webs when the spider is on it, it does alot of fall damage. Use fire and ice as well. if you have cleave, use it on the small ones. and if you need a decent damage dealer, you can also replace astarion with karlach

[HoneyDrake]

Like others have said: you can easily ambush the spider by burning the net under it on round start.
You should have access to tons of consumables, too.
Arrows, scrolls, throwables.

Use your potions, too.

No need to burn all the nets, without a proper reason.

You can always double check if you got proper weapons equipped on all your characters: do you have STR weapons on STR characters? Dex weapons on Dex based characters?
What about your armor?

Did you ever reskilled your characters? Shadowheart has horrible stat distribution for an Cleric. You can keep her as one, just actually distribute her stats to something which helps her spell casting and maximize her important stats.

Same for Wyll, btw. The base stat distribution he gets shoved on to the player is horrible, that's why those two characters are claimed to miss their base spells regularly: they are build in some horrible way.

Looking at the base HP of your characters you are "under leveled" and you should have an easy time getting a bonus level up by doing some side stuff (but considering it's not honor mode, you should not have actually any issues doing it with your current level)

[doug]

I found the fight as you enter the cave to be infinitely more difficult than the boss fight.

[Alxndr]

OK I managed to do it on the 6th try. I opened the fight by burning the web she want standing on and got a few more fire ball attacks off before the fight commenced. Then I managed to push 2 of the larger spiders off the cliff into the abyss below.

Then I was able to burst her down before she spawned loads of mini spiders. Also giving 2 of my characters enhanced jump potion really helped navigate the webs.

[Romnia]

I recommend being at least level 3 so you suffer less. Use Astarion, someone with high stealth, to throw fire flasks at the eggs before entering combat, it's a bit tricky to pull off but not impossible. You should be able to get rid of two clusters no problem without entering combat, especially if you searched around the cave and found the boots that let the wearer walk free on webs.
Use poison resistance potions too. You can cluster your* party together and throw it into them to coat everyone with one bottle.

[tattuvamasi]

There are some ways to make this fight easier. It can be very tricky at low levels.

One way is to start off by stealthily destroying all the eggs before the fight even starts. If you start off on the top level and get the matriarch on a web, you can burn the web or push her to cause fall damage. Then she will immediately teleport back up and you can do it again, which should kill her, or at least come close to it.

If you have access to abilities like Laezel's pushing strike or Wyll's pushing eldritch blast, that makes it way easier to inflict some fall damage on the spiders. Sneaking around and picking off the other spiders before fighting the matriarch is also possible.

[Raz]

Thought the game was too easy?

[Chaosolous]

Fight is easy, shoot the webs.

[jonnin]

a little more than just gravity...

if no one said it, there is an anti-spider weapon you could get before this area.
thrown weapons from a strong thrower built character will do a LOT of extra damage from up high.
cloud of daggers is one of the best spells in the game.

[Mike Garrison]

Originally posted by tattuvamasi:

One way is to start off by stealthily destroying all the eggs before the fight even starts.

Egg-sack-ly.

If you want a step-by-step way to do this:

There are three egg clusters. One can be killed by arrows even without using stealth.

Then have somebody with the spider boots walk (in stealth) across that web to where those eggs were. From there you can shoot the batch of eggs closest to the big spider. Just play it safe and only shoot when the spider is looking away, and drop back into stealth (moving out of the vision range) when the spider turns to look your way. I find I can usually kill two or three eggs each time the spider looks away.

Finally, head over to where you can shoot down at the third batch of eggs. In this spot the spider you are worried about is actually one of the smaller spiders. Again, just shoot the eggs when the spider is looking away, and go into stealth when it seems like it might be watching again.

If you kill all the eggs that way before the fight starts, you don't have to worry about the baby spiders at all.

[[TG] zac]

Persistent AOE, Ranged attacks and gravity are useful throughout the whole game.
Make use of them.

[Alxndr]

Originally posted by Raz:

Thought the game was too easy?

I change difficulty, playing on tactician now.

[Jaeleth]

Originally posted by Alxndr:

https://i.imgur.com/isY3ghw.png

4th time being defeated. I just can't figure out a good way to deal with this fight. They just teleport from 1 side to the other all the time so whenever I get close they just teleport away. I can't just jump to go down to the ground because I lose hp and go prone.

I burn the webs so the spiders can't use them but my characters jump range isn't long enough to jump from platform to platform. The mother spawns mini spiders so I need to try and burst her down fast.

Really struggling with this one. Any advice?

I am assuming the problem is with the Giant Phase spider fight only, since the others, in the corridors, are easy so:

1. Use stealth on your whole party. Switch to turn mode. Use a single party member to destroy all spiderling nests with some "napalm" bottles. Be prepared to dash away once you destroy a single nest. Then return for the others, you'll have to carefully avoid detection and use the landscape cleverly.

2. Next... Take all your party down to a ledge near the place where the phase spider lives, wait for the patrolling smaller phase spiders. Attack one, kill her very fast (1 turn), withdraw. Then do the same with the other.

3. Finally go down to the floor, stealth approach the lone matriarch's dwelling and wait for her to be standing in the web. Fire something fiery at the web. She falls. Lots of damage from fall, and is surprised. Hit her with everything you have. DONE.

If, at any time, you fail to destroy the spiderling nests before she wakes them all up, hunt down the spiderlings, one by one, with ranged weapons and withdraw for each kill. Only engage the matriarch when all others are disposed of. Always kill one, withdraw from battle, kil another, withdraw... rinse... repeat...

Works on any difficulty, I play in Honour / Custom with Honour specs.

Keywords for this fight: STEALTH, AMBUSH

[chrstnmonks]

poison resist potions , and fire lots and lots of fire