What order do the long rest cinematics play in?

[tattuvamasi]

Sometimes I am trying to get a specific scene to play at a specific time on the long rest, mostly early in Act One, like when Astarion tries to bite you, or like when Laezel tries to kill you in your sleep. But, I don't know what order these scenes play in or what are the triggers for them. Are these listed anywheres? I couldn't find the information in any steam guides or on the wiki.

[Nibbie]

Unless you want other scenes to *not* play, you can always just sleep for a week straight and get all the queued long rest triggers.

[Raz]

Lae'zel's does not trigger until after you cross the bridge to the Goblin Camp then log rest after. It is a massive priority and will take place over anything else, period.

Astarion's midnight snack is quite low on the priority list and if you have a ton of crap queued up, he'll eventually just tell you that he is a vampire so if you're trying to trigger this then run across the boar he drains then start long resting immediately until it triggers. If you're on a Dark Urge run, you should get the boar before entering the Blighted Village. So long as you do not go IN the village you shouldn't trigger murdering Alfira but I would still err on the side of knocking her arse out if you're trying to keep her alive.

All companion cutscenes > Owlbear at night. So if you save Karlach and murdered the Owlbear mom in the same day, long rest, then the scene with Mizora will play before the Owlbear shows up at your camp. Same applies with Astarion biting you and the Owlbear.

Raphael's camp cutscene requires you to not have spoken to Nettie or Sazza but I do not know how far you need to progress for its trigger. Probably getting past the Blighted Village.

[Annie Other]

If you take your first Long Rest BEFORE leaving the starting region, you have a personal dream or nightmare.

There's also some companion dialog.

Astarion bite scene should be around the third Long Rest, but it also will depend on whom you have recruited and what you have done already.
If you get Wyll and Karlach early without resting more than two times or before you recruit Asti, it may be later.
If you play as the Dark Urge, enter Emerald Grove and walk towards the Blighted Village afterwards before having gotten the biting scene, it also may postpone it.

Not sure how it is now, but it used to be so in earlier patches that you could spam 6-8+ rests right after recruiting Shadowheart, Astarion, Gale and maybe Lae'zel before ever entering Emerald Grove or even the Dank Crypt.
It was possible to start the Shadowheart romance without ever going any further, just by spamming rest after rest after rest.
Also got you some small scenes and dialogs you otherwise wouldn't get.

When you are getting close to the Goblin Camp and the cutscene with the Artifact/the Absolute trying to control you triggers, next rest Lae'zel will try to kill you and the Guardian/Dream Visitor will appear.

[tattuvamasi]

This is all very helpful, so thank you for responding...I am also wondering, what happens if you just don't recruit Shadowheart? It's her artifact that saves your whole party after all, but in theory I think you could avoid her completely and wander off through the Underdark. How do you get the artifact if you do this?

[Annie Other]

As I have heard, she miraculously appears once you cross the bridge to the Goblin Camp when the cutscene triggers. The Devs made sure you'll get the Astral Prism when you need it.
But I wonder what would happen if you avoided resting in the whole first Act...

[Draknalor]

A lot of camp scenes happen after you trigger the cinematic before entering the goblin camp

[Mike Garrison]

Originally posted by tattuvamasi:

This is all very helpful, so thank you for responding...I am also wondering, what happens if you just don't recruit Shadowheart? It's her artifact that saves your whole party after all, but in theory I think you could avoid her completely and wander off through the Underdark. How do you get the artifact if you do this?

The game will, eventually, force you to take the artifact.

If you kill Shadowheart, the artifact goes to you whether you want it or not.

If you avoid her on the beach, you find her in the Grove. If you avoid her in the Grove, you find her on the bridge into the Goblin Camp. If you avoid the Goblin Camp, you will find her in either the Mountain Pass or the Underdark.

And if, somehow, you never get the artifact from Shadowheart, it will eventually just show up at your camp.

[Mike Garrison]

I usually get Astarion bite scene on the third rest. First rest is Gale staring at the fire. Second rest, Astarion slinks away (I suppose to go feed on that boar). Third rest he tries to bite.

But I don't intentionally avoid rests or (usually) try to manipulate them into a specific order.

[Annie Other]

Originally posted by Mike Garrison:

First rest is Gale staring at the fire.

Plus a dream or nightmare, but only if you don't strive too far from the starting point.

[r-cane]

Since someone told me that the game is realy good when it comes to reactivite of the world to what you do/not do, I was so afraid that I didn`t want to rest. I got to the Emeralt Grove without needing it, and after that, being told that a goblin attack might be imminant (and that the ceremorphosis should happen verry soon) I did everything I could to avoid wasting 8h on sleep. I drained every consumable I got to heal me back up, reloaded a couple of times when combats went to bad, and used every advantage my surroundings got me. I was able to clear the map and got to the underdark either with no or max 1 rest (cant remember because it was some month ago). Lord was I bummed out after hearing that a lot of the plot points happen only while you long rest, and that ceremorphosis wont be a problem.

But this leaves me to a question before my second run. Are there negative consequences from long resting to often? Do stories progress and leave you unable to do specific things if you sleep to often?

[Mike Garrison]

Originally posted by r-cane:

But this leaves me to a question before my second run. Are there negative consequences from long resting to often? Do stories progress and leave you unable to do specific things if you sleep to often?

No. In general the only negative from long resting often is using up food, and there is a LOT of food.

Also, you can even do a partial rest where you don't use food. You get the same plot advancement, but you don;t get all of your health and spell slots back.

There are a FEW specific quests that have failure conditions tied to long rests. In most cases they are obvious, like when you find people trapped in a burning building. Another example is at one point in Act 3 when you may hear that a prisoner is going to be executed in 5 days.

[r-cane]

Originally posted by Mike Garrison:

Originally posted by r-cane:

But this leaves me to a question before my second run. Are there negative consequences from long resting to often? Do stories progress and leave you unable to do specific things if you sleep to often?

No. In general the only negative from long resting often is using up food, and there is a LOT of food.

Also, you can even do a partial rest where you don't use food. You get the same plot advancement, but you don;t get all of your health and spell slots back.

There are a FEW specific quests that have failure conditions tied to long rests. In most cases they are obvious, like when you find people trapped in a burning building. Another example is at one point in Act 3 when you may hear that a prisoner is going to be executed in 5 days.

Thanks. I know about short rests, they only take an hour so I think I did two of those (which was the max I think before you have to longrest). That "most cases they are obvious" is exactly what my problem was in my first try. For me, everything screamed "urgent".
Goblins preparing to attack the grove soon -> urgent to stop it from happening
Ceremorphosis -> Urgent unless I want to see my char killed and turned into a gaik
Woman is trapped by hag -> urgent unless I want to find her eaten/cursed/worse
TombRaiders were able to enter a tomb -> urgent unless I want to find just a looted tomb when I arrive.
etc. I think you get my train of thoughts.

I guess this time I will just try to relax and see what happens, since the first time stressed me out so much that I didn`t even finish the underdark.

[Mike Garrison]

You can check the wiki for a pretty comprehensive list of quests that advance with long rests, but of course spoilers....

[tattuvamasi]

For me, in the play through that prompted my initial post, it has gone like this:

Playing as Shadowheart:
1st rest, before the fight in front of the Grove, the hole in her hand flares up, Shar is disappointed she is resting so early on in the game, personal quest advances.
2nd rest, after I did a whole bunch of stuff, dream guardian appears for the first time.
3rd rest, after I didn't do very much stuff, dream guardian again.
4th rest, pretty much immediately afterwards, Astarion tries to bite me.

So, reflecting on that, If I wasn't Shadowheart, and hadn't recruited her, then I wouldn't have the artifact and those dream sequences wouldn't happen yet. And, if I had waited until after reaching the Grove to take my first rest, I wouldn't have gotten the first scene either. But, if I'd recruited Karlach earlier, then Wyll would have showed up during the rest. I never did get the one where you see Astarion sneaking off to eat the boar...but I think you need to pass a check to get that, and I have the "hide failed checks" option enabled. So, it probably happened on the first rest and I just failed the check, cause I did find the dead boar later on.

So I am wondering, which early-game scenes am I still missing? I think there's one where Raphael shows up, if you didn't run into him anywhere else yet? I feel like there might be some rare scenes that I am missing because I am doing too much stuff in between rests, or recruiting the companions too quickly.

[Mike Garrison]

Originally posted by tattuvamasi:

For me, in the play through that prompted my initial post, it has gone like this:

Playing as Shadowheart:
1st rest, before the fight in front of the Grove, the hole in her hand flares up, Shar is disappointed she is resting so early on in the game, personal quest advances.
2nd rest, after I did a whole bunch of stuff, dream guardian appears for the first time.
3rd rest, after I didn't do very much stuff, dream guardian again.
4th rest, pretty much immediately afterwards, Astarion tries to bite me.

So, reflecting on that, If I wasn't Shadowheart, and hadn't recruited her, then I wouldn't have the artifact and those dream sequences wouldn't happen yet. And, if I had waited until after reaching the Grove to take my first rest, I wouldn't have gotten the first scene either. But, if I'd recruited Karlach earlier, then Wyll would have showed up during the rest. I never did get the one where you see Astarion sneaking off to eat the boar...but I think you need to pass a check to get that, and I have the "hide failed checks" option enabled. So, it probably happened on the first rest and I just failed the check, cause I did find the dead boar later on.

So I am wondering, which early-game scenes am I still missing? I think there's one where Raphael shows up, if you didn't run into him anywhere else yet? I feel like there might be some rare scenes that I am missing because I am doing too much stuff in between rests, or recruiting the companions too quickly.

You can always just take a bunch of no-food "partial" long rests and clear out the queue of any pending rest scenes.