Astarion Dreams

[Mojo JoJo]

I was wondering why Astarion doesn’t dream like the others. Why is it, he has Cazador turn up? But then it had me wondering, maybe that isn’t casador and is in fact his worm trying to control him in the only form that it thinks would work. Anyone have any theories?

[Angarvin]

astarion is an elf. elves don't sleep. they "trance". mb that's the reason

[Mojo JoJo]

Originally posted by Angarvin:

astarion is an elf. elves don't sleep. they "trance". mb that's the reason

If you play an elf, you have the dreams, so it’s not that.

[Angarvin]

him being a vampire then? isn't he technically undead?

[AncientsLegacy]

Originally posted by Mojo JoJo:

Originally posted by Angarvin:

astarion is an elf. elves don't sleep. they "trance". mb that's the reason

If you play an elf, you have the dreams, so it’s not that.

That's Larian forcing an elf to dream with a magical illithid tadpole. D&D lore elves do not sleep or dream like normal. Elves enter a meditative trance for 4 hours a day instead of sleeping. Instead of dreaming they pretty much sift through their own memories.

[MeatGolem]

Whatever is appearing as Cazador to Astarion is also the same thing appearing as someone desirable to everyone else.

Aastarion is Cazador's spawn so, like it or not, part of Aastarion desires to be with Cazador. That's why this being manifests itself to him that way.

We don't know what it is but recent cut scenes have strongly implied it probably isn't the tadpole. And all of this could be up in the air as the story has changed some for the live version.

[AncientsLegacy]

Originally posted by Angarvin:

him being a vampire then? isn't he technically undead?

He is a vampire spawn, not a full vampire yet so he isn't undead yet either. Still an elf just with some powers and a hunger gifted from his master.

edit: nvm I was wrong vampire spawns are undead. He should only get visions from his master or the tadpole tho

[AncientsLegacy]

Originally posted by mindflayerslayer:

Whatever is appearing as Cazador to Astarion is also be the same thing appearing as someone desirable to everyone else.

Aastarion is Cazador's spawn so, like it or not, part of Aastarion desires to be with Cazador. That's why this being manifests itself to him that way.

We don't know what it is but recent cut scenes have strongly implied it probably isn't the tadpole. And all of this could be up in the air as the story has changed some for the live version.

A vampire master sending visions or something is entirely possible

[.Master Jiren, The Strongest]

Originally posted by AncientsLegacy:

Originally posted by Mojo JoJo:

If you play an elf, you have the dreams, so it’s not that.

That's Larian forcing an elf to dream with a magical illithid tadpole. D&D lore elves do not sleep or dream like normal. Elves enter a meditative trance for 4 hours a day instead of sleeping. Instead of dreaming they pretty much sift through their own memories.

The exact quote is "How far does the deepest trance lie from sleep? I leave that answer to your clever mind darling." They aren't calling it dreaming. They explicitly state you're trancing and a brain could easily concoct some funny images in that state if its going to have some mind bending illithid tadpole present. The whole point is that there was never meant to be much of a difference.

[LinkToReality.ttv]

Originally posted by Mojo JoJo:

I was wondering why Astarion doesn’t dream like the others. Why is it, he has Cazador turn up? But then it had me wondering, maybe that isn’t casador and is in fact his worm trying to control him in the only form that it thinks would work. Anyone have any theories?

The dreams we saw was a character trying to tempt us AKA we dream about someone we want. Astarion is conditioned by Cazador so when he sees who he "loves" in his dreams he see him.
All that said the dreams won't be a thing in the full release so it won't matter much :P

[skullymex]

This is what I think: the worm is trying to get you to give in. The most likely way for Astarion to do that is to be reminded of Cazador, constantly. Of his power and cruelty. Make him think he'll need power himself to escape that.