Baldur's Gate 3

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Actalo Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:09pm
All Origin Characters Are Neutral Or Evil
I believe all the origin characters were purposely made neutral or evil.

There's enough evidence in the EA to link the True Soul cult of the Absolute to the Dead Three, who are evil dead gods.

It seems to me the Dead Three wouldn't recruit good aligned avatars to be True Souls. They would more likely pick evil or malleable neutral people; people who are susceptible to corruption, or have been corrupted by some force.
Originally posted by MeatGolem:
I think they have been left morally gray so that we can influence them one way or the other. It's a feature.
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MeatGolem Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:12pm 
I think they have been left morally gray so that we can influence them one way or the other. It's a feature.
Recjawjind Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:12pm 
Wha? Gale, Karlach and (very likely) wyll are not evil, almost assuredly some form of good for all 3
At the very least gale and karlach aren't, we don't know too much about the wyll rewrite yet. A fiend pact warlock doesn't have to be evil though.
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Recjawjind Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:13pm 
And im pretty sure shadowheart can be influenced to become more good over time. Lae'zel and astarion are prolly just evil though.
skullymex Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:15pm 
Karlach is most definetly good.
MeatGolem Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:16pm 
I dunno, some of Lae'zel and Astarion's dialogue makes them very sympathetic and come off as more victims of circumstance than straight up evil. And then other times they are pure a-holes. But Gael, SH, even Wyll have their a-holey moments too, just in different ways.
Recjawjind Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:17pm 
Originally posted by skullymex:
Karlach is most definetly good.
Can't wait to have her in my party. Finally a frontliner that doesn't wine every time I make good aligned choices :')
And her personality just seems crazy fun.
Recjawjind Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:18pm 
Originally posted by mindflayerslayer:
I dunno, some of Lae'zel and Astarion's dialogue makes them very sympathetic and come off as more victims of circumstance than straight up evil. And then other times they are pure a-holes. But Gael, SH, even Wyll have their a-holey moments too, just in different ways.
It's in a vampires nature to be evil, regardless of what they were before, and so long as lae'zel drinks the kool-aid of Vlaakith, I don't see much good in her future.
Hollow-Enigma Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:19pm 
Originally posted by mindflayerslayer:
I think they have been left morally gray so that we can influence them one way or the other. It's a feature.

I agree, depending on how you interact with them they seem to be rather fluid in their standpoints. You don't just have evil or good characters to pick from and roll with, but a selection of ultimately flawed individuals who all change dynamically during your journey together. Something i am rather excited to see unfold come the release.
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Red Shirt Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:19pm 
I recently took a survey that was meant to tell you what alignment race and class you would be. I'm chaotic neutral human monk apparently. Mostly due to apathy toward any sort of commitment to anything that isn't entertaining or beneficial to me personally. I think most people would fall into a neutral category.
skullymex Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:20pm 
Originally posted by Recjawjind:
Can't wait to have her in my party. Finally a frontliner that doesn't wine every time I make good aligned choices :')
And her personality just seems crazy fun.
I know right, ever since the last PFH i can't wait to hang out with her :)
Recjawjind Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:22pm 
Originally posted by skullymex:
I know right, ever since the last PFH i can't wait to hang out with her :)
Gonna run
Probably tiefling sorc
Gale (because he best boi)
Shadowheart (because shes very mysterious still and im interested whats going on with her(and i need a healer))
Karlach (because she best girl)
Ronin Gamer Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:23pm 
No they aren't. In fact I'd argue in a lot of the conversations I've had with the people on this forum they tend to be equal or worse than the team mates you met in this game and aren't more "good" then the people they claim are worse than they are.
Ego is a hell of a drug.
Ronin Gamer Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by skullymex:
Originally posted by Recjawjind:
Can't wait to have her in my party. Finally a frontliner that doesn't wine every time I make good aligned choices :')
And her personality just seems crazy fun.
I know right, ever since the last PFH i can't wait to hang out with her :)
So Gale supporting basically every good thing you do doesn't mean anything?
Shadowheart supporting you being nice to most animals or finding unique ways to get out of direct combat scenarios doesn't mean anything? Wyll wanting to stop the goblins from mowing over the children in the grove doesn't mean anything?
Eye of the beholder and all that I guess...
katzenkrimis Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:32pm 
Be careful.

Before you typecast everybody you may want to play an Act or two.

Things aren't always what they seem.
Recjawjind Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:33pm 
Originally posted by Ronin Gamer:
So Gale supporting basically every good thing you do doesn't mean anything?
Shadowheart supporting you being nice to most animals or finding unique ways to get out of direct combat scenarios doesn't mean anything? Wyll wanting to stop the goblins from mowing over the children in the grove doesn't mean anything?
Eye of the beholder and all that I guess...
I... was basically arguing for the exact same thing you are. Shadowheart is very gray though, she's still a shar worshipper and clearly experienced in torture. Im curious to see where she goes.
Though the most obviously, and undoubtedly good character that we can currently recruit is gale, i'm sure karlach will be similar though.
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