SorLock Multi Class Help?

[Quintosential]

So I was thinking of 4 levels of Sorcerer, then 4 levels of warlock, and 2 levels of fighter (to gain that ability where you can take 2 actions in 1 turn - I believe its called "action surge".

Am I stretching myself to thin? I heard that Sorlocks are amazing but I don't want to skip out on feats every 4 levels so thats why I broke it down that way. Does anything important happen to sorcerers past level 4 where I should refrain from taking warlock levels?

[Recjawjind]

Well... it depends. There are still a lot of questions about multiclassing up in the air that we simply don't know yet, like how exactly spell progression works with caster multiclasses.
In pnp 5e, going 4 levels each would mean you at most get access to second level spells, and spell power spikes at third level.

[branmakmuffin]

There are endless vids on how to make a Sorlock in PnP. The concepts probably adapt fairly decently to BG3.

[Quintosential]

Yeah It is either Sorcerer 6 levels + Warlock 6 levels as they each get something special around that mark.... but will lose out on 1/3 of the feats... or I just do 8 Sor levels + 4 War levels. That way I get all my feats. Just not sure what I would be missing out on with Sorcerer level 9 to 12 and if its worth the trade off.... So many choices lol

[Foolswalkin]

Also, hard to make a spellcaster build until we know the missing 400 spells.

[[Heretic]Rivga]

Originally posted by Quintosential:

So I was thinking of 4 levels of Sorcerer, then 4 levels of warlock, and 2 levels of fighter (to gain that ability where you can take 2 actions in 1 turn - I believe its called "action surge".

Am I stretching myself to thin? I heard that Sorlocks are amazing but I don't want to skip out on feats every 4 levels so thats why I broke it down that way. Does anything important happen to sorcerers past level 4 where I should refrain from taking warlock levels?

Depends on what you are trying to do, I assume you are not going Melee.

If you are a blaster then I'd not bother with fighter what so ever,
1. You only get 3 feats/ASI they are worth too much
2. Loss of 2 levels of spell casting is big that is a whole level of spells you do not have access too

I'd recommend 4 Warlock and 8 Sorc - level 4, More Sorc Points and the bonus feat.

4 More levels of Warlock will not get you more spell slots (they will be higher level but Meh).

[Something completely different]

Why four warlock levels? 2 (or maybe 3 if you want a subclass will be enough.)

Is that third ASI really worth losing 5th level spells for? I think not.

[Quintosential]

Very true. We only get 3 chances to earn feats and missing out on those is too great... especially since I am also risking the loss of some higher level spells.

So My plan now is 2 Levels of Sorc... then 4 levels of Warlock... Then the rest into Sorc. So 8 Sorcerer levels + 4 Warlock levels. I get all my feats then. That way I get more sorc points and can rely on Eldritch Blast as a back up in case I use up my higher level spells.

Fighter is out the window as well lol Also made up my mind that I'll be Multi Classing into Warlock - Fiend as I get HP per each unaliving I do to my enemies.

Any opinions on what kind Sorcerer would match well in this build? All three types sound good but I heard some bad things about the storm based sorcerer. I really wanted to get into the Storm/Weather/Evil Eldritch Weather Witch feel with this. But I also noticed how heavy handed fire spells are on the Warlock side...

[Quintosential]

Originally posted by Something completely different:

Why four warlock levels? 2 (or maybe 3 if you want a subclass will be enough.)

Is that third ASI really worth losing 5th level spells for? I think not.

4 warlock spells just to get the feats that only happen every 4 levels. Otherwise I would gladly due a 10 level Sorc + 2 level Warlock. Its either missing out on 1 feat for a 6/6 split as I hear both Sorcerer + Warlocks get a nice boon at 6th level... or do a 8/4 split to get all my feats and use Eldritch Blast as my last resort when out of spell usage in combat.

Although you may be correct into looking more in depth on higher level spells vs. that extra ASI...

[Voldski]

Not sure how much it makes sense to go deeply into warlock besides getting eldritch blast with agonizing blast, repelling blast and maybe fiendish vigor which seems extremely good early on since its essentially 7HP you can buff at will until it goes away from damage. Maybe have not played for quite a while but think some the warlock are for those specifics while most sorcerer is for extra spell slots and meta magic unlocks to let you do stuff like cast Twin spell.

[[Heretic]Rivga]

Originally posted by Quintosential:

Very true. We only get 3 chances to earn feats and missing out on those is too great... especially since I am also risking the loss of some higher level spells.

So My plan now is 2 Levels of Sorc... then 4 levels of Warlock... Then the rest into Sorc. So 8 Sorcerer levels + 4 Warlock levels. I get all my feats then. That way I get more sorc points and can rely on Eldritch Blast as a back up in case I use up my higher level spells.

Fighter is out the window as well lol Also made up my mind that I'll be Multi Classing into Warlock - Fiend as I get HP per each unaliving I do to my enemies.

Any opinions on what kind Sorcerer would match well in this build? All three types sound good but I heard some bad things about the storm based sorcerer. I really wanted to get into the Storm/Weather/Evil Eldritch Weather Witch feel with this. But I also noticed how heavy handed fire spells are on the Warlock side...

I think the idea or a Sorlock is using the Warlock spell slots (that refresh on a short rest) to give you more Sorcery points.
So when you do a short rests ensure you convert these spells into Sorcery points.
This then allows you to utilise the Meta magic to boost you spells.

You can Twin Eldritch blast for double the damage or bonus action Eldritch blast and then use your action to fire off another.
Think about fairy Fire - Quicken it and get Advantage and then bast away with spells that allow for a critical - maybe if you get Elven accuracy on top of this (3 dice) boosting your chance of a crit for huge damage.

The cost of those Warlock levels is higher level spells, Level 5 and 6 spells - you need to decide if the 4 levels of Warlock is worth it.

[[Heretic]Rivga]

Originally posted by Voldski:

Not sure how much it makes sense to go deeply into warlock besides getting eldritch blast with agonizing blast, repelling blast and maybe fiendish vigor which seems extremely good early on since its essentially 7HP you can buff at will until it goes away from damage. Maybe have not played for quite a while but think some the warlock are for those specifics while most sorcerer is for extra spell slots and meta magic unlocks to let you do stuff like cast Twin spell.

I think due to the limited Feats once you get a level in a class you may as well go 4 levels to pick up the feat - I'd agree with you if it was not for this.

On top of that you get, level 2 spell slots - so when you convert spells they give 2 sorc points not 1. Pact boon - Even pact of the Chain a stronger familiar or pact of the blade giving you a weapon you can use with Chr score. (I'm not a fan of Pact of the Tomb as I see no worth for it with a Sorc and you are not going to get other Invocations).

But it is the Feat that I'd really not want to choose.

Note - Other than watching a few videos on this I have no actual experience with 5e, so take anything I say with a pinch of salt - I dont want to oversell my opinion.

[Quintosential]

I appreciate all the help! Yeah I'm thinking of going a 9/3 Sorcerer/Warlock Split. I'll just deal with only having 2/3 feats. At least I get 1 level 5 spell slot from the Sorcerer. That gives me wiggle room for Warlock giving me Eldritch Blast benefits.

Taking a short rest to convert Warlock Spell Slots into Sorcerer Points sounds awesome but I am hearing online that it may be banned to do so. Like people were easily abusing it. I hope Larian allows it to a certain extent.

I know I will be sacrificing a bit of power from the higher level spells but I want more utility. I'll just rely on my party to help more in combat.

Like I am planning on adding these allies to assist in my breakdown.

Halsin - Tanking hits/speaking with animals/Healing Support as needed.
Astarion - Multiclass with Thiefl + 2 levels of fighter - so he can be a Physical DMG dealer.
Gale - Battlefield control/possible healing as needed.
ME: Magic DMG focus/face of the party.

That way I can blow up or cause more DMG on what Gale sets up IE "Rain, Grease, Web... etc", blow back targets with Eldritch Blast if Astarion is over whelmed as he is less tanky, while Halsin distracts/taunts a few targets away from us squishy characters.

[Quintosential]

Also I think it would be a fun play through like my MC having a bit of a story.

Start off as a someone blessed with magic. After the tad pole incident, my MC will grow as a Sorcerer taking 2 levels in it... then when things are too hard, he decides to run for demonic assistance taking 3 levels of Warlock... Then after realizing his mistake and the comfort of having allies, he goes back to his roots as a Sorcerer for the rest.

So being a SorLock would feel more like a reminder for my MC or be like a cautionary tale for others to not jump to the nearest easy path to power when facing a small bump in the road. I don't know... lol I just love the possible story behind being a SorLock.

Thanks for the assist all!!!

[Locky]

You can also take 1 level in cleric for heavy armor and shield proficiency. Not only that but a 1 cleric 8 sorc has the same amount of spell slots as a 9 sorc.
They did say in an interview that somehow multiclassing wouldn't slow down your spell progression. Will need clarification on that but you might be able to pick up a 5th level spell even as a level 8 sorc? You would have the 5th level slot no doubt.
If you for example wanted to go 4 warlock to pick up a feat to give you medium armor and shield, you'd lose spell slots, a cleric feature and instead of medium you can go straight to heavy with 1 level of cleric.

[Quintosential]

If we don't have the restriction on losing spell profession then yeah I would have tons more freedom in the way I Multi Class.

I was planning on Halsin and Astarion to be the front liners, Gale to be battlefield control, and myself as more blaster. I don't know if I need to do 1 Cleric level for Heavy Armor... Plus Cleric's use WIS as their spell power compared to Sorc or Warlock as they use CHA.

I would honestly do a 2 Level Sorc - 4 Level Warlock - 6 level Sorc. I get my 3 feats/ASI - hopefully keep my higher level spells - and feel more like a SorLock/Blaster.