Did Larian buff/fix sacred flame?

[The_hand_of_fate]

I've been using it on Shadowheart and she's been consistently hitting with it.

[♠.brT]

Nope.

There have been no buffs to it, and there was nothing to fix, so it's working today like it always was.

[Angel]

afaik sacred flame has not been changed, maybe you respecced her to decent wis and now she can hit lol

[Moonbane]

The problem with Sacred Flame is that its a dex save. If its saved by the target, they take -no- damage. The new Toll the Dead functions likewise, but is a wis save. Which immediately puts it ahead. Neither of them is attack rolls.

Bone Chill on the other hand is an actual attack roll like Firebolt.

[The_hand_of_fate]

Originally posted by Angel:

afaik sacred flame has not been changed, maybe you respecced her to decent wis and now she can hit lol

Aside from changing her subclass, strength, and dex, she's still the same. But she was even landing sacred flames in the tutorial (3/4)

[wtiger27]

It's a consistently good spell for the Cleric to use on most enemies. Not noticed it changed. It is mostly effective based on what enemies you are using it on.

[Moonbane]

Originally posted by wtiger27:

It's a consistently good spell for the Cleric to use on most enemies. Not noticed it changed. It is mostly effective based on what enemies you are using it on.

Sacred Flame on low dex enemies. Likewise Toll the Dead on low wis enemies.

[Oonayah]

There are a good number of debuffs in the game which can help Sacred Flame land by penalizing an enemy's DEX saving throws.

Examples of these negative status effects include: Baned, Bloodless, Dazed, Drunk, Enwebbed, Frightened, Maimed, Off-Balance, Paralyzed, Prone, Restrained, Reverberation, Shocked, and Sleeping. I'm sure I missed a few but I was using a cheat sheet.

Clerics frequently end up at the bottom of initiative, so you may have inadvertently been setting Shadowheart up for success simply by using bonus action weapon abilities or wearing a pair of gloves.

[Chaosolous]

That's how RNG works bro. The fact that you think not missing means it was fixed tells me that if you had missed with the attack, then you'd think it's broken.

RNG means sometimes you miss, sometimes you don't. Sometimes you miss a lot. Sometimes you never do, for awhile. Numbers. Crazy.

[The_hand_of_fate]

Originally posted by Chaosolous:

That's how RNG works bro. The fact that you think not missing means it was fixed tells me that if you had missed with the attack, then you'd think it's broken.

RNG means sometimes you miss, sometimes you don't. Sometimes you miss a lot. Sometimes you never do, for awhile. Numbers. Crazy.

But, the fact that it failing is so common that it becomes a community meme, that can raise the question of if it hadn't been coded properly. For example, maybe it was calculating the spell save dc from the wrong stat.

[Raz]

Originally posted by The_hand_of_fate:

Originally posted by Chaosolous:

That's how RNG works bro. The fact that you think not missing means it was fixed tells me that if you had missed with the attack, then you'd think it's broken.

RNG means sometimes you miss, sometimes you don't. Sometimes you miss a lot. Sometimes you never do, for awhile. Numbers. Crazy.

But, the fact that it failing is so common that it becomes a community meme, that can raise the question of if it hadn't been coded properly. For example, maybe it was calculating the spell save dc from the wrong stat.

With what stat? Dexterity, especially early on is one of the highest stats in the game...

[Moonbane]

Just a question of people not understanding the mecanic since its not based on attack roll like firebolt. And as stated, dex tends to be very high.

[alanc9]

Originally posted by Raz:

Originally posted by The_hand_of_fate:

But, the fact that it failing is so common that it becomes a community meme, that can raise the question of if it hadn't been coded properly. For example, maybe it was calculating the spell save dc from the wrong stat.

With what stat? Dexterity, especially early on is one of the highest stats in the game...

Yep. That's what happens when the bulk of your early opponents have Dex as their primary stat.