What have they done with my boy shadow sorc?

[Harukage]

Instead of having an unusual knack for control among sorcerers due to aura of his hounds. Larians made shadow magic sorcerer into some kind of infinite sorcery points generator. Aka just another flavor of fireball slinging sorc. Meh.

[Gaius]

Originally posted by M:

Can you further elaborate how shadow sorc is a sorcery points generator ? I have seen nothing to indicate that

The houd byte can put a debuff that, if hit by spell of the same element,gives a sorcery point.

[Raz]

The Hounds are still a mass of Crowd Control as the secondary Hounds make enemies roll to prevent from being Ensnared. Ensnared gives Disadvantage on Dex Saves.

[Gaius]

Originally posted by Harukage:

Instead of having an unusual knack for control among sorcerers due to aura of his hounds. Larians made shadow magic sorcerer into some kind of infinite sorcery points generator. Aka just another flavor of fireball slinging sorc. Meh.

Not at all. You are right about the sorc point gen combo, but the hound itself costs 3 sorc points.

My personal first try will be Hexblade 6/Shadow Sorc 6 for automated and self reproducing pets, with extra smites as a cool bonus using "create spell slot" if those sorc points start to overflow.

[Oonayah]

I am not in beta and don't know how patch 8 Shadow Sorcery has been implemented.

However, as a tabletop Shadow Sorcerer player for 2+ years, I am all for buffs! Especially to the Hound. At 6th level, the cost of 3 sorcery points for what amounts to a Hunter's Mark that can't be re-cast feels extravagant, especially if your DM is stingy with the long rests. Only a few levels later it feels even more disappointing when it can't even land an attack because enemy AC starts going up.

[Gaius]

Originally posted by Oonayah:

I am not in beta and don't know how patch 8 Shadow Sorcery has been implemented.

However, as a tabletop Shadow Sorcerer player for 2+ years, I am all for buffs! Especially to the Hound. At 6th level, the cost of 3 sorcery points for what amounts to a Hunter's Mark that can't be re-cast feels extravagant, especially if your DM is stingy with the long rests. Only a few levels later it feels even more disappointing when it can't even land an attack because enemy AC starts going up.

It's pretty cool. The Hound has a reaction that creates a minor copy of himself (that doesn't have this reaction but can also ensnare enemies) and a bite that puts a debuf on the target that, if hit by the random element it marks, add a sorcerer point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-SCM_OFL38

This guy has beta access and made basic videos explaining the subclasses. Check out how many houds spawn basically without even trying.

[Raz]

Originally posted by Oonayah:

I am not in beta and don't know how patch 8 Shadow Sorcery has been implemented.

However, as a tabletop Shadow Sorcerer player for 2+ years, I am all for buffs! Especially to the Hound. At 6th level, the cost of 3 sorcery points for what amounts to a Hunter's Mark that can't be re-cast feels extravagant, especially if your DM is stingy with the long rests. Only a few levels later it feels even more disappointing when it can't even land an attack because enemy AC starts going up.

There is plenty of videos on YT showcasing it.

Anyways, the Hound is a controllable summon. It has a chance to curse targets to make them vulnerable to either Acid, Fire, Cold, Lightning, Poison, or Thunder damage and done so at random. If the target is hit with a matching element, the Sorcerer regains a Sorcery Point (Chromatic Orb goes Bbbrrrr). When the hound is hit, it splits and all subsequent hounds are AI controlled. The new hounds Howl in a 3m radius causing Necrotic damage plus Ensnare on a failed check (think it's Dex) otherwise half Necrotic damage on success.