Longbow proficiency options. What do you think it's better?

[Ababinili]

situation: my tav is a (githyanki) rogue. I need longbow proficiency and i won't multiclass.
My 2 options are:

-Feat to weapon master (The other 3 feats would be alert, sharpshooter and ASI). This allows me to get better handwear than my other option (see below) at the cost of "locking" a feat.

-Gloves of archery. This (+ ethel's hair) frees me of one feat. Wich i'll spend on lucky or whathever


What would you do people?

[Raz]

Can't really help with this question without knowing the Subclass you're going.

[Panda]

Gloves are better option since feat is better overall.

P.S Pretty bad idea to use pure rogue.

P.P.S - there is no crit assasin, you have auto crits (Not 100% of the time since most bosses have an alert feat) - so better to make a hitman build.

[Ababinili]

Originally posted by Raz:

Can't really help with this question without knowing the Subclass you're going.

You'te right! i forgot to mention it: Assasin. In short, the idea is make a crit assasin

[Ababinili]

Originally posted by Panda:

Gloves are better option since feat is better overall.

P.S Pretty bad idea to use pure rogue.

IDC, i like to try pure classes even if it's bad idea. At worst i can respec.

[Panda]

Originally posted by Ababinili:

Originally posted by Panda:

Gloves are better option since feat is better overall.

P.S Pretty bad idea to use pure rogue.

IDC, i like to try pure classes even if it's bad idea. At worst i can respec.

Most classes are ok to stay pure, rogue is the worst one. (having one big strike is the same like having 2 hits from monk/paladin other classes, while they will outdamage you later, because they do have GWM or something like that to make an extra attack).

[Mike Garrison]

Are there any other gloves you want to wear? If not, then what's the issue? If there is, well, rogue gets four feats. It doesn't sound like you have any particular need/plan for another feat ("I'll spend it on lucky or whatever").

[Ababinili]

Originally posted by Mike Garrison:

Are there any other gloves you want to wear? If not, then what's the issue? If there is, well, rogue gets four feats. It doesn't sound like you have any particular need/plan for another feat ("I'll spend it on lucky or whatever").

Yes, i've 2 better options: Legacy of the masters (same damage, better accuracy) or helldusk gloves (better damage).

But you've some point: i don't really have a plan for the 4th feat but picking some utility stuff.

Originally posted by Panda:

Originally posted by Ababinili:

IDC, i like to try pure classes even if it's bad idea. At worst i can respec.

Most classes are ok to stay pure, rogue is the worst one. (having one big strike is the same like having 2 hits from monk/paladin other classes, while they will outdamage you later, because they do have GWM or something like that to make an extra attack).

The thing is that i've already played multiclasses and i want to play without doing it, in spite of the "quality" of the class

[Raz]

Going Bhaal Assassin then getting the Craterfish Gloves on Act 3 would at least help offset your crap long-term damage so the Feat would be better than the gloves.

[Ababinili]

Well. So be it. feat.

[klaek]

Possibly consider that Vicious Shortbow may be a better choice in the endgame for you anyway as an assassin. Prior to act 3 using bracers for longbow proficiency isn't a big deal. In the end though a pure rogue does get 4 feats so using your level 10 or 12 feat on weapon proficiency is not a big deal if you still want to use a longbow.

[Bumc]

I had an assassin build with mp party that just went with dexterity gloves till the game's end.

Not optimal in terms of damage compared to helldusk gauntlets, but it left me enough space in the build to double up as a party face and have like 5 more initiative than needed to always go first in a combat.

Multiclass with gloomstalker tho so 3+ attacks in a first round instead of one big sneaky nuke.

[Ababinili]

Originally posted by klaek:

Possibly consider that Vicious Shortbow may be a better choice in the endgame for you anyway as an assassin. Prior to act 3 using bracers for longbow proficiency isn't a big deal. In the end though a pure rogue does get 4 feats so using your level 10 or 12 feat on weapon proficiency is not a big deal if you still want to use a longbow.

I had decide that going for the feat, yes. Thanks for pointing that bow :D

[tom tomorrow]

Originally posted by Panda:

Gloves are better option since feat is better overall.

P.S Pretty bad idea to use pure rogue.

P.P.S - there is no crit assasin, you have auto crits (Not 100% of the time since most bosses have an alert feat) - so better to make a hitman build.

My first complete playthrough was with a pure Rogue build.

You can play anything you want in this game. You can run a solo pure Rogue through honour mode if you know what you're doing and utilise a bit of cheese.

[Ababinili]

Originally posted by Panda:

Gloves are better option since feat is better overall.

P.S Pretty bad idea to use pure rogue.

P.P.S - there is no crit assasin, you have auto crits (Not 100% of the time since most bosses have an alert feat) - so better to make a hitman build.

With crit assasin i meant crit build. Other than the granted crits, i'll have the Dead shot (the reason of what i want longbow), sarevok helmet (thanks, githyanki medium armour proficiency), the 2 crit daggers and the cloak.

Originally posted by mf tom:

Originally posted by Panda:

Gloves are better option since feat is better overall.

P.S Pretty bad idea to use pure rogue.

P.P.S - there is no crit assasin, you have auto crits (Not 100% of the time since most bosses have an alert feat) - so better to make a hitman build.

My first complete playthrough was with a pure Rogue build.

You can play anything you want in this game. You can run a solo pure Rogue through honour mode if you know what you're doing and utilise a bit of cheese.

hummmm interesting

[nguren]

I've been having a lot of fun with a solo rogue playthrough, but you really have to think out of the box on how to cheese many fights.
I just did the one saving the selune priestess in the last light from the demons, by spending a good ten minutes gathering up crates and furniture and barricading the doors to her room. Then when the fight started, I moved folding screens to block her into the corner of her room, so she couldn't get out and the demons couldn't get to her.
If outdoors, a lot of hit an run. With dash dash bonus hide you can cover a huge distance and escape. Take out one guy, run and hide, rinse and repeat. Inside, closing doors is your friend. A lot of fights can be cheesed just by sniping then closing a door and hiding and the enemies just stand in place looking back and forth while you pick them off.