Astarion - Raphael deal act 2

[Inardesco]

So I just walked up to the mausoleum with Astarion ahead of the rest of the party.
However no where in the talk with Raphael did Astarion interject and ask about the scars.

Then when I talk to Astarion he's like; You did what? Even though he was right there?

Like is this encounter bugged or something? Since he did lead the conversation when I walked into Last Light inn

[Mike Garrison]

This conversation is now sometimes quite hard to trigger.

If you make Astarion walk up to Raph in last light and initiate the conversation, he will lead the conversation and you can get the prompt to ask about the scars.

But at the mausoleum, the game automatically forces TAV into the conversation lead, and Raph won't talk about the scars.

However ... If you keep the rest of the party out of sight -- far out of sight -- and send Astarion to talk to Raph by himself, then Raph will tell him about the deal to kill his enemy in exchange for information about the scars.

[Inardesco]

Originally posted by Mike Garrison:

This conversation is now sometimes quite hard to trigger.

If you make Astarion walk up to Raph in last light and initiate the conversation, he will lead the conversation and you can get the prompt to ask about the scars.

But at the mausoleum, the game automatically forces TAV into the conversation lead, and Raph won't talk about the scars.

However ... If you keep the rest of the party out of sight -- far out of sight -- and send Astarion to talk to Raph by himself, then Raph will tell him about the deal to kill his enemy in exchange for information about the scars.

Appearantly they had a chat during the long rest so I guess its fine? But kinda stupid that the game forces you to tav when reaching the mausoleum.

[Mike Garrison]

Also, be aware. Once Astarion hears that the deal is to kill Raph's enemy in exchange for info about the scars, if you *don't* kill Raph's enemy, Astarion will be very pissed off at you.

[Inardesco]

I know that.

But the result of helping him or not leads to the same outcome anyway, he still shows up in the house of hope and Raphael gets his way anyway.

So eh.

Found it rather stupid that some aspects of the game are very much railroaded. My 2nd playthrough I was like, lets deal with the devil to get rid of the tadpole in act 1; ooops, he just blows me off cuz he cannot even remove the tadpole! Stupid...

[Mike Garrison]

Yes, Yurgir ends up in the House of Hope either way. But if you have killed him in Act 2, it requires a DC30 persuasion check to get him to side with you in Act 3. On the other hand, if you helped Yurgir in Act 2, he will side with you automatically.