NECROMANCER CLASS

[Lucifer]

Is anyone get any good idea for Necromancer build ? I am thinking about going wizard and it's subclass but but what about cleric? I feel like wizard is going to best choice for necromancy i know it's not in Rules wish I can have Necromancer as main class but it's not a problem if we got solid sub class from Necromancer school and good spells i think I can make it work too. The point is even if you are working on necromancy dialogues does not change like others classes which you have opportunity to use in dilogue that is very sad i think it's all just because it's a sub class

[Lucifer]

The School of Necromancy explores the cosmic forces of life, death, and undeath. As you focus your studies in this tradition, you learn to manipulate the energy that animates all living things. As you progress, you learn to sap the life force from a creature as your magic destroys its body, transforming that vital energy into magical power you can manipulate.

Most people see necromancers as menacing, or even villainous, due to the close association with death. Not all necromancers are evil, but the forces they manipulate are considered taboo by many societies.

Sources: Player's Handbook

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

I think a lot will depend on the final spell list.

There's the possibility of Death Domain Clercs, but we don't know if we're getting them or not yet.

Also, you should clarify what you mean by "necromancer", because if you're talking about an undead minion master specifically, there are arguments to be made about Conjuration, Enchantment and Illusionists making better minion masters, given that all Wizards have access to the full spell list snd choice of School comes down to how you want to support your minions.

[Lucifer]

Originally posted by Pan Darius Loveless:

I think a lot will depend on the final spell list.

There's the possibility of Death Domain Clercs, but we don't know if we're getting them or not yet.

Also, you should clarify what you mean by "necromancer", because if you're talking about an undead minion master specifically, there are arguments to be made about Conjuration, Enchantment and Illusionists making better minion masters, given that all Wizards have access to the full spell list snd choice of School comes down to how you want to support your minions.

Think i will go with wizard school of Conjuration for that one for now unless Larian going to introduce all school of magic then that will be another story but point still remain it's does not matter no-one in story going to acknowledge you as Necromancer or minion master

[Lucifer]

I don't think who purely want to play as Necromancer going to get refined experience hopefully i am wrong

[Hex]

Originally posted by Lucifer:

I don't think who purely want to play as Necromancer going to get refined experience hopefully i am wrong

It's certainly no Wrath of the Righteous with the Lich mythic path.

[Hairy Coo]

Originally posted by Lucifer:

I don't think who purely want to play as Necromancer going to get refined experience hopefully i am wrong

Frankly even tabletop necromancer is still just a wizard with a few necromancy related quirks. In the end of the day, they still cast fireball when things need solutions quick.

[Lucifer]

Originally posted by Hairy Coo:

Originally posted by Lucifer:

I don't think who purely want to play as Necromancer going to get refined experience hopefully i am wrong

Frankly even tabletop necromancer is still just a wizard with a few necromancy related quirks. In the end of the day, they still cast fireball when things need solutions quick.

Well if that is the case can't we call claric wizard too if they don't get powers from there gods ?? Anyway it's apply with every class i guess but when will wizard will get Necromancer school sub class option?

[Lucifer]

I mean they are following rule of 5e so that's that beside that i don't see why can't we make Necromancer main class with back story how wizard turn into dark arts and now we have whole different class as Necromancer because it's can't be subclass if its has too much depth to it and have it's own subclasses

[Hairy Coo]

Originally posted by Lucifer:

Originally posted by Hairy Coo:

Frankly even tabletop necromancer is still just a wizard with a few necromancy related quirks. In the end of the day, they still cast fireball when things need solutions quick.

Well if that is the case can't we call claric wizard too if they don't get powers from there gods ?? Anyway it's apply with every class i guess but when will wizard will get Necromancer school sub class option?

Thats not what I meant. I mean that necromancer subclass on tabletop does not by itself really change how wizard plays, You are missing alot of utility if you just use necromancy spells, and frankly necormancee quirks are not even that crazy good till higher levels (which we are not that likely to get in bg3). I woundt mind necormancer subclass, but hopefully they homebrew it then to stand out.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

when will wizard will get Necromancer school sub class option?

Presumably when the game launches on Aug 31st.

[Hairy Coo]

Originally posted by Lucifer:

I mean they are following rule of 5e so that's that beside that i don't see why can't we make Necromancer main class with back story how wizard turn into dark arts and now we have whole different class as Necromancer because it's can't be subclass if its has too much depth to it and have it's own subclasses

Ah, you are actually asking for necromancer as a class sorta separate from wizard? Well I mean I guess, but like you said they follow 5e and there is only a subclass there

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Originally posted by Hairy Coo:

Originally posted by Lucifer:

Well if that is the case can't we call claric wizard too if they don't get powers from there gods ?? Anyway it's apply with every class i guess but when will wizard will get Necromancer school sub class option?

Thats not what I meant. I mean that necromancer subclass on tabletop does not by itself really change how wizard plays, You are missing alot of utility if you just use necromancy spells, and frankly necormancee quirks are not even that crazy good till higher levels (which we are not that likely to get in bg3). I woundt mind necormancer subclass, but hopefully they homebrew it then to stand out.

In my experience, taking another subclass, such as Enchanter, Illusionist, or Conjurer, and then mixing it's abities with your undead spells makes a better Necro than the subclass itself does...

[Lucifer]

Originally posted by Pan Darius Loveless:

when will wizard will get Necromancer school sub class option?

Presumably when the game launches on Aug 31st.

If that is the case i think I can work with that 😞 in the end i will called wizard i remember i always used to play wizard if there is no Necromancer option i like wizard class too I guess it's ok

[Lucifer]

Originally posted by Pan Darius Loveless:

Originally posted by Hairy Coo:

Thats not what I meant. I mean that necromancer subclass on tabletop does not by itself really change how wizard plays, You are missing alot of utility if you just use necromancy spells, and frankly necormancee quirks are not even that crazy good till higher levels (which we are not that likely to get in bg3). I woundt mind necormancer subclass, but hopefully they homebrew it then to stand out.

In my experience, taking another subclass, such as Enchanter, Illusionist, or Conjurer, and then mixing it's abities with your undead spells makes a better Necro than the subclass itself does...

Well sure in range of flexibility it's really op you can control death yet same time you have control of magic itself

[Lucifer]

Originally posted by Pan Darius Loveless:

Originally posted by Hairy Coo:

Thats not what I meant. I mean that necromancer subclass on tabletop does not by itself really change how wizard plays, You are missing alot of utility if you just use necromancy spells, and frankly necormancee quirks are not even that crazy good till higher levels (which we are not that likely to get in bg3). I woundt mind necormancer subclass, but hopefully they homebrew it then to stand out.

In my experience, taking another subclass, such as Enchanter, Illusionist, or Conjurer, and then mixing it's abities with your undead spells makes a better Necro than the subclass itself does...

You know what i like that answer why control only death cause in application if you want to control over death you have to master the magic itself so in a way we have more power and flexibility then as Necromancer main class gives it will also lock the wizards abilities it will make no sense if Necromancer will not able to use any other magic so i guess wizard with capability of using death magic is much better good stuff right there not to mention I love wizard and Necromancer guess i will not have to fight over what I want to play