The Reason for the Anger of some Chinese Players

[Ray]

The cause was that Wukong sold over 20 million copies in China, while the Astrobot sold less than 200,000, so maybe you can imagine what happens on the streets of your country when the party with 200,000 votes is declared the winner of the election instead of another party with over 20 million votes.
But what does this have to do with Swen? He gave a great talk about game developers. But the TGA completely misinterpreted him in the Chinese simultaneous translation and uploaded the video without fixing the simultaneous translation, which now has close to 2 million views and tens of thousands of Chinese gamers expressing their displeasure in the comments. This is how they translated Swen's speech: We can't go and develop a certain game just to go and make money or to expand the atmosphere of the market, er weight, much less for certain sales figures or for people who will be laid off if they don't meet their sales targets, in fact, we in the industry, the people who are in charge of judging the awards, specifically say that if if we were to develop a game for that purpose, then it would never win an award.
Chinese gamers know very little about the European and American gaming scene that Swen is criticizing, and to some it seems to be a complete explanation of why Astrobot outperforms wukong with low sales, implying that wukong is about making money or expanding the atmosphere of the (chinese) market and would never win, which made a lot of people extremely angry about it, and took their anger at the TGA to task for it. Swen's words were translated to mean that “sales don't matter at all”, and angry gamers were reminded that 37% of Baldur's Gate 3's sales were in China, and that's how they felt betrayed.Even though the whole thing started with a completely wrong and irresponsible simultaneous translation.

[The Big Weeb]

No one cares dude.

[Mick Savage]

I really wanted to read this but the punctuation prevented it.

[Ghost]

Originally posted by Mick Salvage:

I really wanted to read this but the punctuation prevented it.

TLDR: Astro sold 200,000 and won the award, Wukong sold 2 million.

Swen gave a speech, and someone screwed the translation / people misunderstood which angered Chinese gamers who have since been review bombing.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Ray:

The Reason for the Anger of some Chinese Players
The cause was that Wukong sold over 20 million copies in China, while the Astrobot sold less than 200,000, so maybe you can imagine what happens on the streets of your country when the party with 200,000 votes is declared the winner of the election instead of another party with over 20 million votes.
But what does this have to do with Swen? He gave a great talk about game developers. But the TGA completely misinterpreted him in the Chinese simultaneous translation and uploaded the video without fixing the simultaneous translation, which now has close to 2 million views and tens of thousands of Chinese gamers expressing their displeasure in the comments. This is how they translated Swen's speech: We can't go and develop a certain game just to go and make money or to expand the atmosphere of the market, er weight, much less for certain sales figures or for people who will be laid off if they don't meet their sales targets, in fact, we in the industry, the people who are in charge of judging the awards, specifically say that if if we were to develop a game for that purpose, then it would never win an award.
Chinese gamers know very little about the European and American gaming scene that Swen is criticizing, and to some it seems to be a complete explanation of why Astrobot outperforms wukong with low sales, implying that wukong is about making money or expanding the atmosphere of the (chinese) market and would never win, which made a lot of people extremely angry about it, and took their anger at the TGA to task for it. Swen's words were translated to mean that “sales don't matter at all”, and angry gamers were reminded that 37% of Baldur's Gate 3's sales were in China, and that's how they felt betrayed.Even though the whole thing started with a completely wrong and irresponsible simultaneous translation.

You underestimate Chinese. It is impossible they misunderstand it like that. It needs malicious intent to twists words and numbers like that.

[bongsan2010]

I just fail to understand how Swen's speech was interpreted as dissing the chinese market. He was taking aim at the western market and big publishers like EA and Ubisoft practices, which he knows quite a bit about since he had to deal with them for a long time before going independant.


If anything, his speech was in favor of games like wukong and astrobot.

[Mick Savage]

Originally posted by bongsan2010:

I just fail to understand how Swen's speech was interpreted as dissing the chinese market. He was taking aim at the western market and big publishers like EA and Ubisoft practices, which he knows quite a bit about since he had to deal with them for a long time before going independant.


If anything, his speech was in favor of games like wukong and astrobot.

I agree it's clear he's talking about how much western game devs would love to tap the eastern market.

But that will never happen with the current game model, woke does NOT sell in the east.

[harken23]

Originally posted by Mick Salvage:

But that will never happen with the current game model, woke does NOT sell in the east.

Way to push your political agenda even when it's wildly off topic. Also, not true, so about what one would expect.

Are you saying that BG3 wasn't "woke" in China until Wukong lost? Get a grip.

And like five minutes ago, wasn't BG3 not quite so "woke" any more, since it sold well and won all the awards? Pick a lane, y'all.

[Thomas D.]

Its this talk, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvRm4HKK4gQ

[bongsan2010]

yeah that's the one.

[Ray]

Originally posted by bongsan2010:

I just fail to understand how Swen's speech was interpreted as dissing the chinese market. He was taking aim at the western market and big publishers like EA and Ubisoft practices, which he knows quite a bit about since he had to deal with them for a long time before going independant.


If anything, his speech was in favor of games like wukong and astrobot.

The Chinese simultaneous interpreter, after four hours of heavy work, almost omitted most of Swen's speech and emphasized that “sales and making money are not important, if we were to develop a game for that purpose, then the game would never win an award ”, a disastrous mistranslation.
The combination of the disastrous translation and the anger of Chinese gamer has resulted in this.

[Roday]

Originally posted by Ray:

Originally posted by bongsan2010:

I just fail to understand how Swen's speech was interpreted as dissing the chinese market. He was taking aim at the western market and big publishers like EA and Ubisoft practices, which he knows quite a bit about since he had to deal with them for a long time before going independant.


If anything, his speech was in favor of games like wukong and astrobot.

The Chinese simultaneous interpreter, after four hours of heavy work, almost omitted most of Swen's speech and emphasized that “sales and making money are not important, if we were to develop a game for that purpose, then the game would never win an award ”, a disastrous mistranslation.
The combination of the disastrous translation and the anger of Chinese gamer has resulted in this.

And the only one that will get a bad reputation=the chinese
So they need to fix their ♥♥♥♥,otherwise people will start to act negative toward their next games

[Nemerlight]

Its payback for all those years of botting in WoW and stealing my mobs.

[Wuorg]

I wonder how big TGA is in China? I get the impression most of us don't really care about it in the west? If this nothing burger gets this kind of reaction, it leads me to believe Chinese folks care a lot more about it than we do.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Wuorg:

I wonder how big TGA is in China? I get the impression most of us don't really care about it in the west? If this nothing burger gets this kind of reaction, it leads me to believe Chinese folks care a lot more about it than we do.

Apparently not enough as the bad behaviour only paints a bad image of Chinese players getting the praise for fun games like Wukong wrong.

[Ghost]

Originally posted by Wuorg:

I wonder how big TGA is in China? I get the impression most of us don't really care about it in the west? If this nothing burger gets this kind of reaction, it leads me to believe Chinese folks care a lot more about it than we do.

Frankly I don't know of a single person that actually cares about any of the awards unless they're a developer or publisher. Though to be fair, it is for and about them, not us players / consumers.