Deva mace

[BadRaZoR]

So I just got to Act III and saw a video on the Deva mace. So I got a couple. For Lae'zel, it is listed as 9-46 damage. She was using that epic 2-Hander from Act I that was doing 12-26 damage. I have not done a lot of testing but the mace seems to be doing less damage than the 2-hander when it should be doing about double the damage. I am proficient with it. It's such a disappointment. It's averaging about 18 damage. I don't think I've even hit with it for 20+ damage let along getting in the 30's or 40's.

Anyone else notice this weapon doesn't seem to be as good as advertised. What am i doing wrong?

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

The average damage ought to be around 23, so if you're doing 18 then that's only a little less and just a slightly less lucky streak.

[Zsrai]

Getting a 40+ with that weapon means rolling near max value on 5 dice at once. That's going to be fairly rare. The average damage, disregarding Lae'zel's Strength bonus, should be about 19.5; it seems she has +4 in your save so your average should be 23.5. You're low rolling a bit but consistently getting over 30 total is above average.

[Cthulhu]

who says that mace is op doesnt understand what op is

[BadRaZoR]

Originally posted by Cthulhu:

who says that mace is op doesnt understand what op is

totally agree! At least it lets me use a shield so that's +3 AC I don't mind having but as far as the damage, definitely disappointed!

[BadRaZoR]

That's for the info guys! I still think that a weapon that does 9-46 should average closer to 30. I haven't even come close to 30 in any one attack let alone average near it. Again, very little testing.

[butbka]

4d8, average is 18
1d6 + Strength modifier, average is 3.5 + Str modifier

[victorvnv]

It’s a cheating weapon you aren’t supposed to be able to get it’s funny you mark complaint that an exploit weapon isn’t good enough for you

[RamboRusina]

The reason your old weapon does more damage in all likehood is you running great weapon master. You getting +10 damage to your attacks and an extra attack adds up assuming you can negate the accuracy malus.

[Gaius]

Originally posted by Cthulhu:

who says that mace is op doesnt understand what op is

It's completely OP. The issue is, people have no idea how to make a 2 wield build (and those are not very goodin 5e to start with). I hightly doubt people are taking into consideration you can have 4 attacks per turn (3 main hand, 2 off hand with thief subclass), etc.

No, your 1hander will not hit as strong because you're not using GWM. But the hit doesn't suffer the penalty from it.

[BadRaZoR]

Originally posted by RamboRusina:

The reason your old weapon does more damage in all likehood is you running great weapon master. You getting +10 damage to your attacks and an extra attack adds up assuming you can negate the accuracy malus.

I think you are exactly right about GWM. I've done more testing and the mace is actually putting out more damage or at least the same so my initial observation isn't exactly true now and even if it's just the same weapon output, I now can have a shield which gave me 3AC more which I like. I prefer she's more of a tank thank DPS anyway.

[Moonbane]

Dont think players is meant to have this weapon, its clearly meant for a summon and not supposed to be able to be lifted from them.

[BadRaZoR]

Originally posted by Moonbane:

Dont think players is meant to have this weapon, its clearly meant for a summon and not supposed to be able to be lifted from them.

I've played other Larian games and if there is something that you can figure out how to get then you are ok getting it. If they didn't want it there, it would have been patched out by now.

[Moonbane]

oversights is oversights, and Larian does react to things bought to their attention. Like the clearly unintended way of recruiting minthara on a good run involving polymorph and KOing her.

Just because something clearly is an oversight and still is in the game, it doesnt mean its meant to be legit. They will get to fixing im sure.

You cant for example get the elemental myrmidon weapons.

Ive seen plenty of people trying to argue for it being legit to exploit bugs and oversights because they arent yet removed. Common sense, use it.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Originally posted by Moonbane:

oversights is oversights, and Larian does react to things bought to their attention. Like the clearly unintended way of recruiting minthara on a good run involving polymorph and KOing her.

Just because something clearly is an oversight and still is in the game, it doesnt mean its meant to be legit. They will get to fixing im sure.

You cant for example get the elemental myrmidon weapons.

Ive seen plenty of people trying to argue for it being legit to exploit bugs and oversights because they arent yet removed. Common sense, use it.

Ok officer.

[Mooooooo]

2 of my paladins both have the deva maces, and with their bonus rad damage they average around 50 DMG a landed attack can maxing around 70. I'm running 3 paladins and a necromancer main, filling the vybe of trading one pally for a monk, the gear combos well with 1 monk.