Evil playthrough

[Nebster]

I just finished my evil playthrough (as custom character, not Dark urge) and while I would gladly give this game 10/10 I am disappointed with 2 things:

1. The game doesnt allow you to be truly evil
2. The ending narrative

Evil
In act 1 the game clearly gives you a choice to raid the grove and begin your evil playthrough. But then, later in the game and especially in key moments it turns you around and assumes that you only PRETENDED to be evil.

I wanted to give the Prism to Gythianki as soon as possible (Gythianki patrol), then to Vlakith herself in the Creche, then to kill the Emperor. None of it is possible.

As an Eldrigh Knight Fighter I wanted to join Ketheric Thorm and kill the other 2 chosen, yet the game doesnt allow it because I hold the Prism, which I never wanted.

I murdered innocent people to impress the murder tribunal, became the unholy assasin of Bhaal, yet Orins assassins attacked me almost every time I met them. That doesnt make sense.

Ending
Minthara and I made a deal far back in act 2 that we will control the elder brain and rule the world, she cheered every time I made a dialogue option pointing to this goal.

Raphael and I made a pact that I will give him Crown of Domination after defeating Elder brain.
I broke that promise and took the crown for myself. He should be pissed as ♥♥♥♥. He even has contract on my soul in House of hope, so he holds me by the balls.

And what was the outcome?

I sit on the throne and the game ends.
Minthara says nothing, Raphael says nothing, Emperor says nothing, Narrator says nothing, there are no cutscenes about other important characters / NPCs.

Disappointing.

Any plans to fix this in the future?

[victorvnv]

Lol yea endings are weird and have no real consequences based on your actions.

That if fact is the reason why you should be evil- in the end you can still be the hero or not- matters not lol

[butbka]

Originally posted by Nebster:

Any plans to fix this in the future?

I have no such plans.

[Kafik]

Originally posted by Nebster:

Any plans to fix this in the future?

LOL fix what? Did you kill the tieflings and druids? That's an evil act and there's nothing "pretend" about it later in the game.
You can't join Ketheric that's impossible due to the storyline. This isn't a sandbox game.
At the end you took over control of the mindflayers. What did you want, an evil cookie?

[butbka]

Romeo and Jullete are dead.
Disappointing.
Any plans to fix this in the future?

[ThorianZz]

i have killed raphael and robed his ass. those sweet gloves and necklace, and the armor he drops, heavy with mertery on it, impec.

[KDA Seraphine]

There is no true evil playthrough in bg3.
You have to fight against the absolute anyway.
It make me feel like there aren't many different narrative changes between good and evil.
The biggest disappointment is lacking of reward on evil playthrough.
basically Minthara is the only reward you can get from being evil.

[Kafik]

Originally posted by KDA Seraphine:

There is no true evil playthrough in bg3.
You have to fight against the absolute anyway.
It make me feel like there aren't many different narrative changes between good and evil.
The biggest disappointment is lacking of reward on evil playthrough.
basically Minthara is the only reward you can get from being evil.

Um evil people fight other evil people all the time in D&D. You see that in the very beginning of the game, mindflayers versus devils. Githyanki versus mindflayers. Taking over the elder brain is an avil act. Killing the elder brain just because it put a tadpole in your head can also be an evil act even if you save the city and everyone in it. Saving the city as a by product of one's selfish choices can be a result of evil.

[Dork_Stalker_310]

Originally posted by Mal:

Killing the elder brain just because it put a tadpole in your head can also be an evil act even if you save the city and everyone in it.

How? Unless you operate under the creed that murder is bad, even if it is an alien organism, who's only purpuse in life is to destroy and enslave?

[Kafik]

Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:

Originally posted by Mal:

Killing the elder brain just because it put a tadpole in your head can also be an evil act even if you save the city and everyone in it.

How? Unless you operate under the creed that murder is bad, even if it is an alien organism, who's only purpuse in life is to destroy and enslave?

Killing someone or something just because they pissed you off is evil. Not hard to understand.

[Dork_Stalker_310]

Originally posted by Mal:

Killing someone or something just because they pissed you off is evil. Not hard to understand.

"To piss someone off" is about making an insulting remark or stealing a snack. Putting a tadpole that will turn someone into a monster or brainwash into slavery isn't "pissing off", it's not a mild annoyance, it's a great harm that absolutely justifyes self-defense in any form. If defending yourself in that case means "killing someone who tried to transform you against your will" it's not an act of evil, at all.

[✙205🍉🐆→]

2/10 as custom character
I am not satisfied with any of the consequences of the "evil" elections, it's just ridiculous.
Dark Urge best choise for Evil path

[Kafik]

Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:

Originally posted by Mal:

Killing someone or something just because they pissed you off is evil. Not hard to understand.

"To piss someone off" is about making an insulting remark or stealing a snack. Putting a tadpole that will turn someone into a monster or brainwash into slavery isn't "pissing off", it's not a mild annoyance, it's a great harm that absolutely justifyes self-defense in any form. If defending yourself in that case means "killing someone who tried to transform you against your will" it's not an act of evil, at all.

Unless you take that power for yourself. And then your motivation is just revenge. It's not the act, it's the motivation that defines evil. Your example would not necessarily be evil.

[Dork_Stalker_310]

Originally posted by Mal:

Unless you take that power for yourself. And then your motivation is just revenge. It's not the act, it's the motivation that defines evil. Your example would not necessarily be evil.

If you mean that you can be an evil person and do a good deed out of selfish motives, then I agree. But the act itself won't be evil, just because the person is.

[brendan_in_china]

The true reward for an evil play through are the friends you killed along the way.

[Edit] Also, there's that book on Shar that warns the final lesson is being forgotten. You might've just been given the Shar.

[nod for kiss]

evil is not worth it. you cant be pure evil in this game and you lose lots of content by siding with goblins.