Stuck in Act 2, need help.

[SweatyNuggs]

I've cut my way through the moonrise towers and slaughtered Z'rell and company. The journal says I have to find another way to infiltrate the cult, but I've searched the tower up down and sideways and killed everyone except for the general as he is invulnerable. Do I have to reload and take the quest from Z'rell? Any answer are appreciated

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by SweatyNuggs:

Stuck in Act 2, need help.
I've cut my way through the moonrise towers and slaughtered Z'rell and company. The journal says I have to find another way to infiltrate the cult, but I've searched the tower up down and sideways and killed everyone except for the general as he is invulnerable. Do I have to reload and take the quest from Z'rell? Any answer are appreciated

No.

[Sistalis]

Because there are several ways to do this, we might need more information to help you. Did you side with the Harpers or did you follow the drider to the tower before killing everyone.

If you are with the harppers, you need to liberate the prisonners, did you kill the guards at prison level? allowing the Gnomes and Thieflings to escape?

Did you kill the Thorm sibbling?

If you took the other route (Eviler) did you rescue Minthara from the prison. There also the the top of the tower where you can find information on Ketheric \.

Then you should bring that info to ( With the liberated prisoners) to Last light in do the quest to get the quest to attach Moonrise ( If you liberated or Killed Dame Aylin)

[nullpo]

Originally posted by Sistalis:

Because there are several ways to do this, we might need more information to help you. Did you side with the Harpers or did you follow the drider to the tower before killing everyone.

If you are with the harppers, you need to liberate the prisonners, did you kill the guards at prison level? allowing the Gnomes and Thieflings to escape?

Did you kill the Thorm sibbling?

If you took the other route (Eviler) did you rescue Minthara from the prison. There also the the top of the tower where you can find information on Ketheric \.

Then you should bring that info to ( With the liberated prisoners) to Last light in do the quest to get the quest to attach Moonrise ( If you liberated or Killed Dame Aylin)

those informations are useless though? All you need to do is just go to thorm mausoleum and meet nightsong. The game nudge you in that direction via some of the info that you ask for, but it's not needed.

[Ovan]

Originally posted by SweatyNuggs:

I've cut my way through the moonrise towers and slaughtered Z'rell and company. The journal says I have to find another way to infiltrate the cult, but I've searched the tower up down and sideways and killed everyone except for the general as he is invulnerable. Do I have to reload and take the quest from Z'rell? Any answer are appreciated

The journal isn't helping with the note, but what it means is that you don't have any way to kill the general yet.
Go to the mausoleum and complete the gauntlet of Shar.

[euromanijak]

Considering you said that Ketheric is still invulnerable you didnt "destroy" the source of his invulnerability, you either missed it considering Z'rell sends you to go help Balthasar to that location or you can go there without her sending you there, its in the northern part of act 2 past house of healing its the Throm Mosuleom

[Gregorovitch]

Originally posted by euromanijak:

missed it considering Z'rell sends you to go help Balthasar to that location or you can go there without her sending you there

Yeah, that's what has confused you, the Act 2 narrative assumes you will talk to her and she will send you in search of Balthazar.

I think if you thoroughly explore Balthazar's rooms in Moonrise Towers you will probably get an alternative trigger to go find Balthazar and the Temple of Shah. That is your route to Thorn himself, but you want to complete anything you want to do at Moonrise first.

[LordOfWarcraft]

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[Zeev]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by SweatyNuggs:

Stuck in Act 2, need help.
I've cut my way through the moonrise towers and slaughtered Z'rell and company. The journal says I have to find another way to infiltrate the cult, but I've searched the tower up down and sideways and killed everyone except for the general as he is invulnerable. Do I have to reload and take the quest from Z'rell? Any answer are appreciated

No.

Reported troll.

[Zaris]

Originally posted by Zeev:

Originally posted by アンジェル:

No.

Reported troll.

The answer "no" is correct to the question "Do I have to reload and take the quest from Z'rell?". Like others said you only need to free / kill Nightsong in the mausoleum which you will find without any quest.

The game in general is very open in terms of quest design, 99% of the quests are optional and can be skipped / ignored and the main story objectives (killing 4 bosses) can be done without any quests.

[SweatyNuggs]

Originally posted by Sistalis:

Because there are several ways to do this, we might need more information to help you.

Thank you for the serious reply.

I doubled back and took the mountain path after going most of the way in the underdark/grymforge. I sided with the Harpers at the ambush and repelled the attack on the inn, ive freed both the gnomes and the thieflings, both of which are safe at last light, i checked in with the gnome who gave me gold despite being ungrateful, but he still has a quest marker on the map, the theiflings asked that i find the guy who went looking for them but he has no map marker. Ive not yet encountered the Nightsong and I dont even really know what that is. Right now, the journal entry just states that ive killed z'rell and thus cannot accept the quest from her and "need to find another way"

[Gregorovitch]

Originally posted by SweatyNuggs:

the theiflings asked that i find the guy who went looking for them but he has no map marker.

He's out on the main Shadowlands map, you probably haven't explored that bit yet.

Originally posted by SweatyNuggs:

Ive not yet encountered the Nightsong and I dont even really know what that is. Right now, the journal entry just states that ive killed z'rell and thus cannot accept the quest from her and "need to find another way"

As I said above that's what happens if you kill Z'rel before the game assumes you will.

I did say above that it's probably possible to activate the main quest line again by exploring Belthazar's rooms in Moonrise Towers (first floor, which Americans call second floor for some unaccountable reason). Don't worry if it doesn't, it'll re-activate later anyway.

Anyway to reach Nightsong, which is basically the route to Act 2 finale, you will need to find Rafael who is hanging out on the main map in a spot you obviously haven't explored yet.

Your game is still in fine state despite you not getting the usual quest from Z'rel. Your best bet at this point I think is to make sure you explore the whole Shadowlands map and also every inch of Moonrise Towers you can get to (with the exception of the roof which is were Thorn is at this stage and as your journal will tell you he is currently unkillable).

By doing that you will automatically find both the tieflings friend and Rafael and also get to clean up anything else you haven't finished or haven't found yet which would be wise to do before you delve seriously into the Nightsong business.

[butbka]

Originally posted by Gregorovitch:

[q (first floor, which Americans call second floor for some unaccountable reason).

Lol. Man, all world calls it second floor except some snobbs on the island.

[Gregorovitch]

Originally posted by butbka:

Originally posted by Gregorovitch:

[q (first floor, which Americans call second floor for some unaccountable reason).

Lol. Man, all world calls it second floor except some snobbs on the island.

Really? You telling me nobody in this world calls a ground floor a ground floor?

[butbka]

Originally posted by Gregorovitch:

Originally posted by butbka:

Lol. Man, all world calls it second floor except some snobbs on the island.

Really? You telling me nobody in this world calls a ground floor a ground floor?

Some islanders do. 40 years ago my school teacher of english told us:
Remember kids, these strange guys that eat bacon and eggs instead of breakfast call first floor - ground floor, second floor - first floor etc.

[Gregorovitch]

Originally posted by butbka:

these strange guys that eat bacon and eggs instead of breakfast