Baldur's Gate runs horribly

[Arian]

Hey Everyone

I have an AMD Radeon Rx 6700 XT and a Ryzen 9 3900x with 64 gb of ram. Baldur's Gate runs horribly even at 1080. I get these weird sudden drops to 4 - 10 fps and I constantly get frame drops. It doesn't happen in any other game. All of my drivers are up to date I even went ahead and reinstalled my drivers but it still isn't fixed.

[Anima Mundi]

The game does not run horribly except from the known issue with the city.
People on very old hardware are able to play fine, and you have a pretty decent setup.
So we can exclude the problem here is not the game.

You may want to first take a look at simple options already mentioned here.

-Switch vulkan to DX. -Perform a clearing of the cache.
-Try verifying game files, on the extreme even a clean installation.
-Game should be installed on SSD obviously.
Are you using Mods ?? (get rid of them)
-Try doing a complete settings reset (by deleting the file, not the in-game reset button).
Always restart PC between different attempts at solution.

-Maybe before all this you also want to check a different Save, or even a new game, and exclude problems with that specific save.
-maybe a setting in your specific hardware / driver interacting with BG3: try playing around with the Video settings, it could be one little setting causing issues. (remember when RTX cards came out and FO4 would crash if you had weapon debris at a certain level? - still happens).

If you said other games run fine, its probably not a latency issue, but ultimately as last resort i would also recommend performing such full diagnosis of your system.
Programs like DPC Latency checker, and Latency Monitor have solved many weird problems for people. WhySoSlow can do even better checks. Latency issues usually affect your whole system, but it could be affecting only a specific process triggered by this game, in the off chance none of the things above solves it for you.

The thing is usually people don't give enough Info in these threads to get good tech help.
But if you follow some or all of the these steps you're on a good troubleshooting path to find the problem... - most of the time it's something simple that was overlooked

[LordOfTheBread]

Originally posted by Metallicus:

Originally posted by LordOfTheBread:

This is completely fake, I have 2 fully AMD machines at home and a fuill AMD laptop none has any issues.

Buying Intel CPUs that run hotter, consume more power and performs slower is a terrible advice.

Note that I used Nvidia cards for years and had no problems either but modern AMD GPUs have stable drivers and work flawlessly, they also have a way better configuration panel in front of Nvidia and their Geforce experience that demands you log in and their Nvidia panel that did not change since Windows XP.

Bottom line: the truth lies elsewhere and OP does not have problems because he has an AMD CPU or GPU.

I shared my experience and thought it could be relevant to the OPs issue. Maybe AMD has improved over the years which is why you use them and think they are okay. I prefer stable over anything else and I don’t have issues with the game.

After my personal experiences with multiple systems using AMD CPUs and GPUs I will never buy another one of their products.

With almost 30% of Steam user base rtocking an AMD CPU and both Sony and Microsoft consoles running AMD APUs for 2 geberations (3 generations for Microsoft) they clearly improved. AMD CPUs are now regarded as way better buys for every utilisation, they also have the gaming crown with their S cache CPUs.

In terms of GPUs, while Nvbidia is teh clear leader, AMD offers unparalel price / performance in teh mid-range today and are totally valid options.

I understand you might not be interested in learning what happens in tech but yea, AMD is leading teh CPU market for both personal and professinal use for quite a while now.

Note that I never had much proble4ms with Intel in teh past, nor Bvidia to be honest but, especially in cirrent times, calue is king and the best bang for my buck was an AMD machine (e3ventho best bang regardless of bucvk in CPUs is still AMD) and rocking a 6700XT in place of my aging 1070 for over a year now I can say I had 0 issues.

You don't have to trust me tho, some research will tell you teh same. I'd personally wion't buy an Intel CPU anytime soon unless they drasrtically reduce their prices or pick-p the pace and stop being tunner-uips to Intel to the point where their latest products are pretty sad.

https://youtu.be/8KKE-7BzB_M?si=PF8uj3XUUSLEMSUd

Back on topic I am interested to know OP's settings because there are litterally no reason to get that low FPS on that config.

[Anima Mundi]

Originally posted by LordOfTheBread:

Back on topic I am interested to know OP's settings because there are litterally no reason to get that low FPS on that config.

they seem to be complaining about intermittent frame drop, not the constant FPS, which surely points to something not related to real time rendering

[⇧⇨⇩⇩⇩]

Originally posted by Arian:

Hey Everyone

I have an AMD Radeon Rx 6700 XT and a Ryzen 9 3900x with 64 gb of ram. Baldur's Gate runs horribly even at 1080. I get these weird sudden drops to 4 - 10 fps and I constantly get frame drops. It doesn't happen in any other game. All of my drivers are up to date I even went ahead and reinstalled my drivers but it still isn't fixed.

How come you didnt mention what settings you run it at?
Have you tried running the game on not a potato? Maybe that would help?

[LordOfTheBread]

Originally posted by morrganstain:

Originally posted by Arian:

Hey Everyone

I have an AMD Radeon Rx 6700 XT and a Ryzen 9 3900x with 64 gb of ram. Baldur's Gate runs horribly even at 1080. I get these weird sudden drops to 4 - 10 fps and I constantly get frame drops. It doesn't happen in any other game. All of my drivers are up to date I even went ahead and reinstalled my drivers but it still isn't fixed.

How come you didnt mention what settings you run it at?
Have you tried running the game on not a potato? Maybe that would help?

Consideringf the minimum requirements for the game are a 4core CPU and a GTX970 with 4GB of memory a 12 cores CPU and a 12GB card e2quivalent to the RTX3060TI - 3070 sis not really a potato. Unless anything shy of a 4090 is.

The l;ack of hardware knmowledge in these forums is astyounding really.

[NoobBlaster]

I'm sure it was Patch #4 (the big one), though it could be Act 3?
Ever since, my performance sucks (on a highend, new build PC), though it could just be because I'm in Act 3, which feels like I'm playing a beta build?

But after that last huge patch, the graphic look worse, the fights lag on the CPU turns and I get frame drops.

Prior to the Patch, the game ran like butter and looked crisp and detailed.

[Fargol]

Originally posted by Arian:

Hey Everyone

I have an AMD Radeon Rx 6700 XT and a Ryzen 9 3900x with 64 gb of ram. Baldur's Gate runs horribly even at 1080. I get these weird sudden drops to 4 - 10 fps and I constantly get frame drops. It doesn't happen in any other game. All of my drivers are up to date I even went ahead and reinstalled my drivers but it still isn't fixed.

I had the exact (and I mean exact) same issues with sudden fps drops, hitching, rubber-banding, etc. The cut scenes could be excruciatingly slow, and often I can't skip through them. This was really bad during the cut scenes at the Grove.

This is how I "solved" it (obviously it might not work for you) and I have not had a single problem since doing this. My system is pretty strong and I can run anything else with no issues. When I had Elven Ring it ran flawlessly, albeit at medium.

1. Started my usual apps in the morning (Steam, Edge, then run BG3 via Steam). When I started getting the drops (which was almost always within a few seconds) I ran Task Manager and my memory was over 90% (I have 16 gb).

2. As an experiment, I made sure Steam was down and did not start Edge before running BG3 (via the BG3_dx11 executable). It ran smooth as silk; no drops or any other performance issues (I'm running the graphics on HIGH. Will be trying Ultra today for kicks and giggles).

3. I can then alt-Tab out and run Edge. I also start up Steam and things still go well, albeit I might get very brief fps drops from time to time so I don't usually bother.

Memory usage using this is still kinda high at around 82% but that seems to be the threshold.

For reference:

Cyberpower GAMER XTREME ET9975
CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i7-8700K 3.70GHZ 12MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151 (Coffee Lake)
VIDEO: ZOTAC GeForce® RTX 2070 8GB GDDR6 (Turing) [VR Ready]
SDD: 512GB Intel® 660P SERIES PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD (Included)
HDD2: 2TB (2TBx1) HDD
MEMORY: GEIL Super Luce 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/3000MHz RGB MEMORY

[Ceph]

Originally posted by NoobBlaster:

I'm sure it was Patch #4 (the big one), though it could be Act 3?
Ever since, my performance sucks (on a highend, new build PC), though it could just be because I'm in Act 3, which feels like I'm playing a beta build?

But after that last huge patch, the graphic look worse, the fights lag on the CPU turns and I get frame drops.

Prior to the Patch, the game ran like butter and looked crisp and detailed.

Same here. Before patch 4, game run smootlhly, even in Lower City. After the patch i startes experiencing performance problems such as my buddies couldn't join me in LAN coop session, their connection progress started to stuck at 80%. Moreover in my single cmpaign issues started at Wyrm's crossing, my party members and other NPC were stuck for a couple of minutes then suddenly rushdown to me, switching to other party members also took couple of minutes at some places. What i noticed in coommon it was in places with a lot of NPC. But, i repeat, before patch 4 all ran smoothly, coop and sinlgle. It all began after patch 4 release.

[BOT_BAJlEPA]

do not use Vulkan.

[Vakula]

Idk man, runs well enough for me on the latest patch. Max settings with DLSS quality, dynamic crowds on, getting 62 fps lowest in Act3 most intense moments with a 3080 and a 5800x on an ssd.

[Ceph]

Originally posted by BOT_BAJlEPA:

do not use Vulkan.

Problem is that in my case DX11 has more problems with performance and loading in general, i mean textures and NPCs. Vulkan does that way faster in my case.

[Joo-mies]

Started a second campaign after a small pause. Suffering from the same problem. Runs fine for a few moments, then the fps dips to single digits, then returns back to normal for a few. You know, hitching.

Now i will admit i´m running this on a cheap all-AMD gaming laptop — a "potato" if you will (Ryzen 5600, 6500M) — but i played through the game once just fine on release, and i have always kept the graphic settings to an appropriate level, disabling anything too intensive.

I have also tried a bunch of graphic settings while trying to find out what might be causing this, with little luck. But perhaps someone has better luck analyzing this issue.

Judging by the comments in this thread that manage to avoid being snide, it would seem like an issue with AMD GPUs specifically. Feels like the game is buffering something, so perhaps a (graphics) memory issue, or driver related?

[Cirrus]

Originally posted by Arian:

Hey Everyone

I have an AMD Radeon Rx 6700 XT and a Ryzen 9 3900x with 64 gb of ram. Baldur's Gate runs horribly even at 1080. I get these weird sudden drops to 4 - 10 fps and I constantly get frame drops. It doesn't happen in any other game. All of my drivers are up to date I even went ahead and reinstalled my drivers but it still isn't fixed.

Because you say ram size before ram speed I assume that you have not paid attention to it. This game is much more interested in ram speed than size. And as zen 2 is not blazing fast cpu it needs very well optimized ram speeds to maintain good internal bus speeds inside cpu.

That is my guess atm.

[LordOfTheBread]

Originally posted by Cirrus:

Originally posted by Arian:

Hey Everyone

I have an AMD Radeon Rx 6700 XT and a Ryzen 9 3900x with 64 gb of ram. Baldur's Gate runs horribly even at 1080. I get these weird sudden drops to 4 - 10 fps and I constantly get frame drops. It doesn't happen in any other game. All of my drivers are up to date I even went ahead and reinstalled my drivers but it still isn't fixed.

Because you say ram size before ram speed I assume that you have not paid attention to it. This game is much more interested in ram speed than size. And as zen 2 is not blazing fast cpu it needs very well optimized ram speeds to maintain good internal bus speeds inside cpu.

That is my guess atm.

Zen 2 is indeed, not blazing fast but should run this fgame no problem, I have a R5 3600 myself and have next to no issues and my ram is not blazing fast (DDR4 3000).

I think theres either something running in the background that eats a ton of CPU ressources or another bottleneck somewhere but his zen 2 12 cores should do OK in this game.

[damo.black]

you could try optimising your pc, turn off services that you don't need,stop virus killer and any memory optimise software etc.,also make sure your memory is set up right in your bios,buy a new ssd for installing it on if you don't have lots of space left.uninstall a few things you don't use.I get the odd frame slow down here and there but have everything on full.my system is 8700 intel,ddr4 average speed memory,but my gfx 3080.