If Tav had a canon class, what would it be?

[Tenjen]

Not that they do, but for the sake of discussion, what do you feel would be Tav's canon class? Based on what critera? Like those with the most unique/funniest/interesting responses, interactions, most fitting to their personality and decisions in a default playthrough? Would you say that the different playthrough styles each have a different canon class that fits it best?

For me, in a default good playthrough, Bard Tav seems to fit the most. It's one of the few class types not already covered by the origin characters or other companions. They would be the one who charms and binds our team of misfits together. They can get them to cooperate and support them with their individual issues and conflicts. Keeping spirits up while not having any agenda of their own except for their principles, allowing ALL the others to trust them and follow their lead while also opening them up to be influenced towards a better path than the one their various patrons have chained them to.

They can talk, punch, spellcast, sneak, cheat, lockpick and crawl their way out of every situation. is crazy enough to pull off all the wild stunts we do. They would have broad knowledge across a wide variety of topics while lacking deeper insight that they depend on their friends for.

They would be able to demoralize, curse and hurt the enemy while encouraging, blessing and aiding their friends in a fight. Bard's seem to have some of the most varied and fun conversation options and unique dialogue rolls spread throughout the game as well.

If i had to choose a close 2nd, it would be a wild magic sorcerer Tav but i've already written enough, what are your own thoughts and notions for what fits Tav best in any sort of playthrough? Please remember to warn about spoilers if you bring anything up.

[TheOrneryClam]

Originally posted by Hårgalåten:

Originally posted by EH!:

How do we know it's a sorcerer?

From the official game art and the mini game blood in Baldur's Gate: https://bloodinbaldursgate.larian.com/

Also, if you play as Tav, you can find the Dark Urge body (white dragonborn) somewhere in the Bhaal temple.

And if you play as dark urge, you get the strong indication durge hates bards lol I've always found this comical.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Flannaz:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Bard or Sorcerer. There's lots of gear for both, but no companions with those classes.

you can spec characters however you like though

But those aren't their "canon" classes.

[Josephus]

Tav is meant to be a wizard, and Durge is meatn to be a fighter.

My logic for the former is the maps are IN GENERAL designed for casters along with teleportation. Also, drops for chests and the like contain much more gear for casters than melee types.

My "logic" for Durge is the default character type size, and the violence is more close and visceral.

Eh, kinda silly as Larian made every variant rewarding to play.

Crazy good.

[Tenjen]

Originally posted by EH!:

Tav would be a bard. It makes most sense for a character without their own story. They are there to record other people's stories and be their therapist ;)

yeah i can see Tav after everything composing and wroting an entire library worth of of books, ballads, records, songs, requiems and orchestral symphonies about the adventure, their allies and enemies, every tragedy, every faction, every event. Perhaps even a comedic jig or rhyme about a certain over-reaching wizard's fate.

(Act 3 inner city spoilers)
Oh spineless Lorroakan, he hired men for the Nightsong's immortality!
Oh daft Lorroakan, he wanted to drain it from the Dame like sap from a tree!
Oh witless Lorroakan, the Moonmaiden's child broke his back over her knee!

[Tenjen]

Originally posted by Hårgalåten:

Tav is actually somewhat cannon, Tav was a baldurian investigating on the murders in the city (murder from the dark urge) before getting abducted by the nautiloid. If you play as Dark Urge, Tav was murdered by the Dark Urge on his investigation. If you play as Tav, the Dark Urge was murdered by Orin the red before he could kill Tav. This explain why Tav got [Baldurian] options in some dialogues, because he was an investigator in the city.

A fitting class would be paladin or fighter maybe, but it could be anything really.
Cannon Dark urge is white dragon sorcerer from the official game art and Blood in Baldur's Gate mini game.

This is true. I assume that in an origin playthrough, both occur with the Dark Urge murdering Tav and being killed by Orin in turn.

[Arthur (The king)]

Originally posted by Tenjen:

Originally posted by Hårgalåten:

Tav is actually somewhat cannon, Tav was a baldurian investigating on the murders in the city (murder from the dark urge) before getting abducted by the nautiloid. If you play as Dark Urge, Tav was murdered by the Dark Urge on his investigation. If you play as Tav, the Dark Urge was murdered by Orin the red before he could kill Tav. This explain why Tav got [Baldurian] options in some dialogues, because he was an investigator in the city.

A fitting class would be paladin or fighter maybe, but it could be anything really.
Cannon Dark urge is white dragon sorcerer from the official game art and Blood in Baldur's Gate mini game.

This is true. I assume that in an origin playthrough, both occur with the Dark Urge murdering Tav and being killed by Orin in turn.

If you play as a costum "Tav" not from the city than yes that make a lot of sense.

[Supply Slut]

Canon is almost certainly Dark Urge white Dragonborn sorcerer.

That said if we are excluding durge, it’s kind of impossible to tell but I would go with Bard as well.

Why? Despite every companion having some dark and horrific past, custom Tav is the only one of the group who has a relatively normal background (except for Durge, obviously, they would be top of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥-up-pyramid). They are made the leader, basically what would be considered the face of the party, and bard fits that role extremely well. Bard also has a lot of unique dialogue, and is a class that is flexible enough to grow into any other roll: need a support caster? Done. Need a melee fighter? Done. Sneak/thief? You bet. Arcane expert, yesiree.

Other classes can be very flexible but given Tav is always leading the party it makes sense they would be a skill monkey, charismatic person, and have a wide variety of talents, even if they aren’t the best in any one of those talents.

[Snow]

The most generic class of them all of course : fighter.

[Lani]

Originally posted by Snow:

The most generic class of them all of course : fighter.

Ranger, barbarian and wizard classes are just as generic. But they all bow to Paladin when it comes to genericness.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Lani:

Originally posted by Snow:

The most generic class of them all of course : fighter.

Ranger, barbarian and wizard classes are just as generic. But they all bow to Paladin when it comes to genericness.

Ranger maybe, but those others at least are actually fantastical. Fighter in a fantasy game is the class for someone who reads Harry Potter because they really like train rides (as opposed to all the fantastical wizard ♥♥♥♥).

[victorvnv]

Most certainly a paladin if we aren’t talking Dark urge in which case a sorcerer

These are literally The Most popular classes for Tav in general and for a good reason.

When you think of a leader main character you don’t think a musician who cracks jokes , you think a full plate armor knight who smites his enemies with a divine power and always tries to do the right thing .

Any answer that’s not paladin for Tav or Sorcerer for D urge is wrong

[Tenjen]

Originally posted by Supply Slut:

Canon is almost certainly Dark Urge white Dragonborn sorcerer.

That said if we are excluding durge, it’s kind of impossible to tell but I would go with Bard as well.

Why? Despite every companion having some dark and horrific past, custom Tav is the only one of the group who has a relatively normal background (except for Durge, obviously, they would be top of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥-up-pyramid). They are made the leader, basically what would be considered the face of the party, and bard fits that role extremely well. Bard also has a lot of unique dialogue, and is a class that is flexible enough to grow into any other roll: need a support caster? Done. Need a melee fighter? Done. Sneak/thief? You bet. Arcane expert, yesiree.

Other classes can be very flexible but given Tav is always leading the party it makes sense they would be a skill monkey, charismatic person, and have a wide variety of talents, even if they aren’t the best in any one of those talents.

to add to this i can see it as the reason over why the Guardian (The Emperor) chose Tav (if they're available) as their champion ahead of any others. They're the only one who had leadership qualities without some pre-existing agenda, interfering ties, existing allegiances, ulterior motive or some focused objective that would override what the guardian wanted and thus the most malleable to their influence, who in turn would influence all these other misfits with their different agendas and allegiances into a team

[victorvnv]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Bard or Sorcerer. There's lots of gear for both, but no companions with those classes.

By that logic he is a monk. The fact that as dark urge he can kill a bard with his bare hands in his sleep means he hates bards lol and he is skilled in hand to hand / combat

[Arthur (The king)]

Originally posted by victorvnv:

Most certainly a paladin if we aren’t talking Dark urge in which case a sorcerer

These are literally The Most popular classes for Tav in general and for a good reason.

When you think of a leader main character you don’t think a musician who cracks jokes , you think a full plate armor knight who smites his enemies with a divine power and always tries to do the right thing .

Any answer that’s not paladin for Tav or Sorcerer for D urge is wrong

Paladin is certainly the most played class in any games, I think they saw it coming and made the good paladin fighting evil class and investigating the murders in Baldur's gate the most fitting choice for a default cannon Tav.

Something point out that they also wanted to make the Dark Urge a paladin of vengeance. In some of the official artworks, the white dragonborn Dark Urge wear a paladin armor, that gives you the choice to play as a redemption dark urge and is very fitting to the dragonborn race who are often paladin from the 5e DnD lore.

[Tenjen]

Originally posted by victorvnv:

Most certainly a paladin if we aren’t talking Dark urge in which case a sorcerer

These are literally The Most popular classes for Tav in general and for a good reason.

When you think of a leader main character you don’t think a musician who cracks jokes , you think a full plate armor knight who smites his enemies with a divine power and always tries to do the right thing .

Any answer that’s not paladin for Tav or Sorcerer for D urge is wrong

Bards are more than just the most basic image of a scrawny traveling musician with sparkle tricks for magic and fart jokes, who sleep with married people (or both).

The ones with leadership and battle experience are skald's with a warhorn, singing the triumphs of their ancestors and past victories of mighty heroes. Charming rogue scholars with arcane aptitude who go out into the world to meet interesting people and befriend/lay/kill them and also play music, arent too broad shouldered, use sparkly wizardy, make fart jokes and end up sleeping with someones partner, along with said someone half the time, in every town they visit.